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DevReply I'm so close to quitting..

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Flipscuba, 14 Apr 2018.

  1. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    Although I found some good info here, I feel coming to this forum was a mistake. I've looked back at all the many posts in various threads talking about how Defender is in a really bad place, about how you could buff it, etc. and it just leads to a sense of despair as it becomes obvious this is a game "run" by a company that doesn't care about it. And sure, you could say switch to a new ship. But I've been focused all these many months on building up a Defender. So, while some of the gear would carry over, I have basically no decent yellow items, or green ones. And I can't just start playing a new ship with extremely subpar gear or I'll quickly drop below the infamy threshold to where I get my match rewards cut severely. I just don't know what to do with myself, having made the grave mistake of thinking Defender was fun at the beginning and too-slowly coming to the realization of how bad it actually is at any reasonably high level of play. What is someone like me supposed to do, other than drop several hundred dollars at LEAST on this game (not possible for me BTW)?
     
  2. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    What captain level and infamy are you?
     
  3. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    Level 39, was hovering around 3.2k until I started switching up weapons to help in guild quests, now I'm down around 2.6k
     
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  4. Miathan

    Miathan Well-Known Member

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    Don't listen to all the whiners, you can do fine with a defender. It may be a little weaker than others at some levels but the difference is not as big as some forum people want to make you believe.

    If you really want to switch, you can always try shooter. No green or yellow items required.
     
  5. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    My first post may not have been clear enough. I was aware of the problems I had with Defender for a while. It wasn't until I came here that I realized that I was not alone, that this had been a topic of discussion for quite some time with no real changes made. This forum didn't convince me Defender was in a bad place, I slowly came to that realization on my own.
     
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  6. Miika

    Miika Game Lead

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    It is unfortunate that you feel that way because the truth is quite the opposite. Battle Bay is run by people who cares deeply about balance and therefore use actual data and statistics to make sure ships are in balance instead of only relying on individual subjective comments.

    For example, looking at mk6 defender statistics for the previous season (26.3. - 8.4.) shows that it had the highest winratio and second highest usage&user count, damage done and contribution/stars. This is hardly what I'd call a "really bad place".
     
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  7. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Uh exciting data! Shooter has to be the most popular right?

    Whats the least popular and who has the lowest damage &/or contribution? :)

    Everyone loves Miika in his number mode!
     
  8. Miika

    Miika Game Lead

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    Yes, shooter has been always the most popular ship. The most logical reason for this is that it is the ship everyone starts with and many people just don't experiment and try new things.

    The least used mk6 in the last season was Enforcer. Yep, the totally OP ship which everybody now uses according to some reports. :)
    The lowest damage is naturally Fixer because dealing damage is not their role so it's not really a fair comparison.
    The lowest contribution reward goes to speeder this time. Not by much though.

    Fun stat of the day: At mk7 the average distance traveled per battle is 40% higher for Defenders than for Speeders. It's not the speed but to stay alive to actually being able to travel. ;)
     
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  9. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    I stand corrected. Apologies for letting my temper make me overdramatic.
     
  10. FearsomeChicken

    FearsomeChicken Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @Miika for letting us know the hard numbers, always great to hear feedbacks from the devs about their point of view instead of thinking our suggestions fall on deaf ears.

    @Flipscuba what is yoir defender build? I'm a defender main lvl 40, just switched to mk6 and im rocking an unconventional build
     
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  11. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    Some variation of Sniper/Blast/Explosive/Regular Cannon/Flare gun depending on quests, mood, etc. Two shields (big and regular) turbo and rudder. For the past day or so I've been running Sniper/Flare/Blast with flame perks since I realized that flares pop shields.
     
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  12. What's Up Player

    What's Up Player Well-Known Member

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    Thanks @Miika for the statistics data.
    This should calm down all the people with their crazy "balancing" ideas. :)
     
  13. FearsomeChicken

    FearsomeChicken Well-Known Member

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    Great, sniper flare blast is a good combo, try switching to explosive cannon with fire perks and you'll be dealing tons of damage.

    Here's my unconventinal build, I usually prioritize survivability and support and can usually do quite well: Screenshot_20180414-163716.jpg
     
  14. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    Huh. Do you find you can deal with Speeders at all? I tried replacing my rudder with a third shield, and I honest to God felt like I could not get any decent Speeder in my sights. I also have only been blessed with a couple rare bandages, so a triple bandage build would be far off for me.
     
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  15. Neptune_Gaming

    Neptune_Gaming Well-Known Member

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    wow only 1 shield and 3 bandages?
     
  16. Capitan Defender

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    Lucky u...i got 2 epic bandages in like 4 months...yesi got 1 spic and i waited for another 1 for like 4 months...and u ask...did u crafted epic blues?yes i did alot,but i get lube or rudder(items ill never use ever again!)so yea...
     
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  17. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    Eh, I couldn't even fit a bandage into my build anyway tbh. I refuse to give up my rudder, else I can't kill the Cursed Speeder.
     
  18. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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    1k damage crit on him will make that pest swim away(sometimes i get a triple critstreak and i finish it off ezly)
     
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  19. Flipscuba

    Flipscuba Well-Known Member

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    Yeeess, the cursed, cowardly Speeder must die.
     
  20. Capitan Defender

    Capitan Defender Well-Known Member

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    BANANA BOATS AND LEMON BOATS MUST DAI NAO!!!!!1!11!
     
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