Guild challenge match ups

My guild continues to get matched up against insanely higher ranked guilds and we get destroyed. We basically have zero chance of winning. Example: my guild is ranked in the 1100’s, we are matched up against rank 18 as well as in the 300’s 500’s and 600’s. It is very discouraging. I know it is done by quests completed last time but this insane. My team is discouraged and some have stopped playing altogether. Please tell me there is a change coming for this.

 

If you read the announcement....

"Improved rivalry matchmaking, taking individual players more into account"

 

And that means?

 

Every time I post in here I get no help.

 

Will do. I figured this would be a bigger discussion as I’m sure I’m not the only one with the issue. The other thing is my members that have quit playing we’re spending money on the game so that should be important to the devs. Breaking up into categories like seasons are may be a way to even the playing field. Thank you for responding yerjokin, I really appreciate it.

I wonder why this thread doesn’t show when you click on newest threads.

 

OK, thx

 

I would say not improved!

 

Never had a problem. Global rather means nothing, just how high total infamy is. 2 weeks on, 2 weeks off works best. Always a challenge, but average about 55 quests per week. Would have hit 60 if it wasnt for star horder.

 

We shouldn’t need to take a break every other week to have a fair match up.

 

Your issue is that you're not first in every rivalry and you want to win easily.
If you're in a guild that don't spend Pearl's on hundreds of boosts for the entire guild you're never going to win.
You don't have to take a break, but that's what works for my guild. Even now with no boost on we are on board 3 against 1 top 15 team, 2 top 30 teams and us, top 100.
The rivalry is fair in my eyes.

 

Why don't you just ask the developers to eliminate the rivalries and automatically reward you with 42k tokens each week?

Because you want the same 1st place reward for doing 20 quests as guilds that do 100 quests ..


Are the podium rewards better for higher ranked guilds?
-Nope.

Are higher ranked players at an advantage?
-Nope.

1) Star quests, domination quests, individual ship win quests have nothing to do with level.

2) They miss out on a lot of the 10x bonuses ...

Higher ranked guilds aren't using many mortars (or half the weapons in the game) because they have to use their best weapons to maintain their NML ranking. Likewise, they generally have far fewer shooters than lower ranked guilds - meaning they have less weapon slots to use weaker weapons.

3) Ships get a bit more HP as they get higher level - so it should be easier to get damage right ...? Nope. There are more lower health yellow boats (absorbing your biggest shots with Tshields) in higher ranked games.

4) Do they win more often? .. Nope. We all pretty much have the same win percentage.

5) Are they more active or do more work on quests? .. maybe .. but that's not unfair.



What would be "fair" would be to place every guild against each other, then distribute rewards based on how many quests you completed compared to others.

1st: 1M tokens
2nd: 750k
3rd: 500k
4th: 400k
5th: 300k
6th: 250k
7th: 200k
8th: 175k
9th: 150k
10th: 125k
11th - 100th: 100k descending to 51k
101 - 250: 50k descending to 1k
251 and below: 0



But, like I said .. I don't think you really want it to "fair" .. you want easy wins.

 

It’s fair but you need need to take a break to win? I’m sure if my guild did zero quests one week we could win the following week. My issue is fairness. No I don’t expect to be number one every week, thanks for insulting my intelligence. Based on what you wrote you are matched up more closely than what I show above.

 

How is a guild ranked 1000 going up against a guild ranked 20 fair?

 

I wrote a very long and detailed post about how it's more than fair .. especially given the rewards are the same regardless of guild ranking. Which part are you having trouble with?

 

Your hypotheticals are not helpful since you think a number 1 ranked team and a 50,000 ranked team would be a fair match up. I absolutely don’t buy it. Easy to think such things when your guild is so highly ranked.

 

1) They're not hypotheticals. They are all facts.

Do you not believe that win percentages are all pretty much the same? Check.

Do you not believe that all those quests listed (dominator, win matches, star hoarder) count the same for every player in the game? Check.

Other than a few spending loads of money and doing it out of boredom, NML players aren't wasting their limited time or resources leveling up the weaker weapons in the game (33-40% of the weapons).

Don't believe me that they're grinding out those weaker weapons without the 10x multiplier? Check BayStats.

Don't believe me that there are fewer Shooter mains in top guilds? Check.


2) Yes, my current guild is normally ranked in the top 3 or 4 spots .. but it's not my first guild.

My current guild did 49 quests total last rivalry. I've been in guilds that did that many quests in the first 2 hours - every single week. Those guilds were full of 1-2k infamy players that were willing to strap on 4 uncommon Big Bertas or 5 standard mortars and grind quests. Obviously, that guild's ranking was hundreds or thousands lower than #3.

Below is the only screenshot I could find as an example - it's several months old (because I'm under 4k) .. but, my current guild rarely has over a few people doing 100k - because their not willing to sacrifice infamy for quests and the raffle rewards are easier to earn elsewhere.

The guild in the screenshot obviously didn't care about infamy.


3) As I've said, you're probably not going to be happy unless you're winning every week -- so just ask for that.

Because if it was "fairness" you wanted, you wouldn't come in first every week. It would be "fair" to average between 3rd and 4th place - some weeks in 1st or 2nd and some in 5th or 6th.

If you have a decent questing guild, you should be completing around 60 quests a week (and getting around 150k tokens for those boards) ... so the podium rewards would only be some small fraction of that 150k - or 1 or 2 more spins a week.

And ... that's what you want developers spending their limited time on? A few extra uncommon powercells or perks?


4) Anywho, you have your mind set on the conclusion that it's unfair so you're not going to let things like reason, logic or facts get in the way. And that's fine .. this is more for everyone else anyways.