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Frost

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by *Rubber Duck*, 29 Nov 2017.

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Should frost break on damage?

  1. Yes

    6 vote(s)
    16.7%
  2. No

    30 vote(s)
    83.3%
  1. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    So i havemt been on the game since frost got broken with damage, of course im a frost torp fan, been using it since my first leg weapon was the big torp wich i got VERY early after starting the game....it was a combo i rarely seen used and couldnt find but one video on it from porthos. Jump back on today gor a few game and i hate it...iv talked to a member of the game team directly about it and i still stand by what i said...weapons depend on frost for damage, IT DOES NOT need to break with damage! This make frost training and perks fairly pointless as now for them to work i basicaly have to be 1v1.... i really hope you guys take this away, i dont mind nerfing the amount of speed reduced but cant stand when my slow big torp is half a sec away from landing a target that get sniped or mortard just befor it hits...if u disagree please with ur comment leave me a point to any training or perks for frost now?
     
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  2. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Frost nerf went too far, but what's done is done.
     
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  3. Zerolive

    Zerolive Well-Known Member

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    I totally agree with you. The frost doesn't need to break on hit. But I believe frost-torp was OP at that moment and they nerfed it. Sure thing but they nerfed it so hard that it lost it's purpose. Devs reduced it's effect by a huge margin and removed frost on hit. I can make my peace with the reduced effect but removal on hit is that I cannot agree on. They can set damage limit before frost breaks but removal on standard cannon hit is just irritating.
     
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  4. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    Im with u there, i know the damage was crazy, did i want that nerfed? No but im biast on that topic cuz i use it lol...but the breaking on damage is my issue, that was way to much
     
  5. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    According to the team member i talked to it can be "undone" if needed. Wich is why i made the post...its not about damage done or how much is slowed with frost...this is about frost breaking on damage
     
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  6. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    I think big torp should have just got a range increase on how far it has to travel before being able to deal damage, aswell as the minimal speed being .33 (I think) again. Would have gave people a chance to dodge frost torps and would have been balanced enough without having to completely murder frost
     
  7. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    Added a poll just to get an idea of what ppl think
     
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  8. Zerolive

    Zerolive Well-Known Member

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    Anyone who votes yes is a victim of frost torp.:D
     
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  9. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    I'm a slow fat defender, a former victim of taking 4k+ damage from frost torps in the ass and I'm voting no. Hope that tells you something Rovio
     
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  10. TheAntiSnipe

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    It should. Overnerfing is BAD, guys. I can understand that it was because you were in a hurry, but you need to unnerf it a bit, because that setup is now taboo.
     
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  11. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    It hasnt gotten off topic im just commenting for futer comments, i ask any comments be directed to frost breaking on damage. The other nerfs that came with it are a different topic and id like to keep it to how much better or worse any combo, perk or training is now that frost breaks please
     
  12. Crazycyclops

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    I've been using frost torp since I got my little mk4 speeder ship. After the Nerf I tried using this combo in so many battles and came to a conclusion that it is just impossible to land such a slow moving projectile in the heat of battle. Someone is always going to break it. Now it has lost its purpose as a combo since it can't be finished. Most annoying part is I've died a lot of times because I failed to land my torp in time, not because it was my fault but because my teammates broke it. I can't blame them for shooting either, everyone wants to deal damage and kill targets but even a friendly does "1" damage to a frosted target it breaks which is just sad. Now I'm training some other talents to make my ship battle ready which is going to take a lot of time. In my league Ace 1 doing pesky amount of damage with other cannons without making any good contribution to the team and continuously getting blasted by nightmare players have brought a serious dislike for the game. I used to play battle bay everyday for at least 2-3 hours but now it has been more than a week since I've played. I'm losing my interest. Sorry devs but you have disappointed me very much.
     
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  13. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    Same here bud. Its frustrating esp. With the time and lots of real money iv spent towards this account and this setup iv grown to love and be great at.
     
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  14. *Rubber Duck*

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    To the person who voted yes, id like to hear your reasons y it should break on damage? Not how op The over all damage is or how it slows way to much, strictly about y u think it should break, if ur reason tie into damage done some how id like to hear that part about damage :)
     
  15. Earel

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    Nerf frost it’s similar to nerf fixer pulse... it’s sadly and unfair but it’s applyed, for speeder they can use explosive + flare combo instead... looked at all top speeder 70% used It.. moreover all other items same... fixer don’t have any alternative for pulse... so don’t care... for rest ppl.
    For now frost it’s dead item(both blaster and launcher).
    Increase red track to 150% - 200% from current(for torp), and 1 hit to frosted target reduce 50% from current freezing time(example freeze 10 s , after 1st hit = 5 sec; after 2nd =2,5; after 3rd =1,25... I think it’s fair enough, for torp, sniper targeting and mortars rain...
     
  16. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    Time frozen by frost was already reduced by damage if im not mistaken? And like many ppl have said when nerfs are applied. This game take ALOT of time to make changes to loadouts along with real money spent waisted if the nerf is to much to those who do spend....i feel that is were players decide to quit.... imagine spending tjousands on a set up u do great with then it gets over nerfed....that would be hard to just deal with and put more money towards another item in hopes it doesnt get hit next to hard. Im all for nerfing items needed for balance but the break on hit was uncalled for
     
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  17. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    Damage dealt by torps was never ever a problem. Because it was already there. Blaster received buff for slowing effect in last but one update. Give damage back and that horrible breaking thing too. Just nerf gluing effect.
    They can still apply changes like frost and stun don't stack. Clever changes are welcomed. This one was total BS, period.
     
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  18. *Rubber Duck*

    *Rubber Duck* Well-Known Member

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    2 ppl have said yes, id like to ask you who vote yes please leave a comment explaining why u feel it should be broken. Im not trying to single u out to badh u, im not that kind of person i just like to ask questions and get other views..I ALSO ASK NO ONE ELSE TO GIVE THEM NEGATIVE FEEDBACK OF THEY RESPOND.ill ask the devs to remove ur comment or lock the thread...i dont want any trash talk please. If u dont wana comment i ask u atlease send me a direct message, id love to hear ur reasons
     
  19. Earel

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    The reason is simple speeder is OP. If some negative changes applyed to speeder DO IT! Less possibility for alternative combo - less speeder in a battle.
     
  20. *Rubber Duck*

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    So u think it should break just because speeders in general are OP and any nerf towards items they use is needed and ok?
    That doesnt seem like a logical reason but ty for replaying bud :)
     
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