Enforcer balancing.

I cannot get over how unbalanced MK5 enforcer is.There is not a decent two point yellow item except tesla shield.For comparison a speeder can use 3 yellow items at mk5 and a big shield as well.
I think there should be 3 yyy at mk5 for enforcer while as u can equip a big shield at mk6 as usual.
Also would love a good two point yellow point item as frost blaster ...well u know

 

I suggested the same thing but sadly I was shut down

 

Then there'll be no difference between speeder and enforcer, enforcer can turn fast and has more turret agility compared to speeders so they've restricted it to only 2 yellow slots.

 

There will always be a difference ,A speeder has the highest turning and speed.As an alternative to speeder and as a support boat enforcer needs this change.
Otherwise speeder can play the enforcer part pretty well

 

yep, enforcer mk5 is too weak(( Speeder mk5 is most useful and better. its not fair.

 

Agree. 4YY is really a waste at MK5. Not only it's the only ship limited to all 1-slotpoint weapons, at MK5 it's limited at blue items also, and at yellow items you don't use full potential, because you just can't. Either you lose 1 or 2 slot points depending on if you use Tesla Shield or Bolt. Anyway it's dumb.

No wonder everybody uses mk5 speeder instead.

Edit: Enforcer user here

 

Calling it an alternative to speeders is a joke

 

Yeah because you bumped it like 10 times... it maybe had something to do with that

 

MK5 Enfo user here, and i just love it. I don't think it needs balancing, as enfo is something different than speeder

 

I agree, if I had two good Tesla shields I would definitely trade my overboost, and use all my slots but the enforcer is still really good with three guns which separates it from speeder and it has a higher base health so a shield isn't mandatory like on a speeder, also the ability to back up and have a good turret are the best parts about enforcer, I think there is no need of rebalancing, although I wish mk6 would have 3rrr 4yy and 4bbb but that would be too good

 

Look nobody complains about mk6 enforcer as it goes toe to to with other boats.Just wish we did not have to have to wait till mk6 to use 3yellow items.It should be available at mk 5 with big shield at mk6.
Yes it has higher base health but a big shield speeder blows it away.Turret ability is the best but its not game changing as evident from how many people use gear lube on other boats.Also whenever a nerf occurs to speeders it worsens enforcers position.
Rather than giving it a small buff in previous update adding another yellow item slot would have been better.In battle bay each ship is unique but there is very little enforcer can do which speeder cant.
Another fix would be adding some new 2 point yellow items only to be used by enforcer.

 

To make this work a different slot would have to be removed since an additional slot would make mk5 enforcer the only mk5 with all 8 slots which would be further out of balance on the op side, the slot to remove would be a direct nerf to enforcer since taking away a red would make it a slow speeder, take away a blue would mean the use of only a turbo since base speed is way to slow to justify a shield or bandage. If this was done then at mk6 it would almost be a different ship since it would allow Tesla shield, another gun or a shield. This would make enforcer progress more screwed up since people would spend all of mk5 upgrading 1 point yellows when at mk6, Tesla, as of right now is the best use of a slot or slots, and then the addition of a new red or blue slot would also hamper even flow between mks. The red addition would be less of a hindrance but if that path was chosen for mk5 it would make the mk5 pointless and then if the removal of a blue slot was taken then you would have to be prepared with a shield that may have sat in your inventory for a while. As it is right now the only non-even flow between mk5 and Mk6 is the blue slot allowing a big shield, but even a standard shield rudder or bandage would suffice at mk6 until you have that full big shield. I think the best way to help mk5 would be 3yy and 3bb but even that will get some scary mk5 enforcers with 6,000 health. Mk5 is balanced as is.

 

A new 2 point yellow item is needed, I agree, and yes I lose to big shield speeders half the time as a mk5 enforcer, but the reason is that almost all speeders have Tesla bolt, and even if enforcer had a Tesla bolt it still negates the 3 red slots in a 1v1 with a speeder since those battles consist of shoot then stun, get into position, shoot once maybe twice hope you don't get stunned then stun again and so on. I think Tesla bolt needs a rework not enforcer and a rework not a nerf. And most 1v1s against other boats enforcer has huge advantages. if people can play it right.

 

common guys...Mk5 enfo can already equip 3 weapons.,its not a weak ship, infact there are no weak ships in the bay, only weak players.,

 

This is true

 

Speeder: speed + turning speed
Enforcer: acceleration + turret agility

 

Guys, guys, guys... I'm ready. I'm already ready. I've already got my Frost Launcher and Tesla Shield equiped. Please, please, please, please, please, please, pretty please, with cherries on top, get me that 3rd blue slot point. Like.. for real. I'm so serious.

I'll trade up a whole red slot for that 3BB, I don't even need it. Any serious enforcer playing from MK1 up to MK 4 now days won't be hurt by that. They already have 2 red slots and can get extra comfy with the 3RR. No more need to switch out that 2 point weapon (just yet (maybe never)).

As for 3YYY I don't need it. That'll be like going back to Mk4. Only thing is, I'll have to waste entire slot to rock a tesla shield not just one point. I can just hop in my Mk5 speeder for that and not have to worry about being stupendously slow with a speed of 1.somethingnotabovethenumber5. I don't need 4YYY either, if you care to plead for it. I can rock my current setup without it (and all other 4YY setups too). BUT if you guys CAN get me 4YYY I will most definitely bring out the frost blaster and tesla bolt, to rock with my Tesla Shield. Which should be a Mk6 setup but.... Either way 3BB or xYYY I'm ready. Bring me that exclusive Grander Father status.

Actually wait for 2 more minutes. I'm going for 'Super Grand Father' status. I gotta go replace my big torp with some 1 point items so I can try to save my red slot too. I want to login and see -1RRR -1YYY 1BB left on my slots underneath those items.

Spoiler: Seriously though,

I didn't want to this. But I really am ready, just in case you guys manage to pull this one off. I just simply refuse to lose my 4YY.

And I will rock the fully loaded 4YY until you ALL start showing more love to the gear lube. Or I get my Mk6... Whichever comes first.

Long live 4YY!

 

That would give the opposite effect

 

Acceleration is useless without an overboost, which 4YY is suggesting right now

 

Always Have a Good Overboost With You