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Catch the flag - how hard can it be

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Flint, 20 Oct 2018.

  1. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Hello everyone

    Catch the flag is a nice straigth forward event :), the name says it all: you have to catch the flag. Then how come I have 10 battles in 2 days, where nobody catches the flag? Nobody comes near the flag and are fighting somewhere else the entire battle. I am the only one who attempts to catch it, but with a yellow boat am dead within 5 seconds.

    I have a feeling a lot don't get the event or they are more concerned about dealing as much damage as possible to finish quests, as someone told me. Which ruins the event, because even if you do 200k damage, but the other bring the flag home, you lose anyway.

    If you see someone dying with the flag and are next to her or him, why not grab it?


    Regards,
    Flint
     
    Last edited: 21 Oct 2018
  2. Nikkie!

    Nikkie! Well-Known Member

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    Two things:
    1. You spell Reagrds (vgm) as Regards ;)
    2. Wanna fleet this evening? :)
     
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  3. Sifa

    Sifa Well-Known Member

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    Yeah I share your feelings :D it's so frustrating when some people just don't play the way that helps you to win, instead they shoot anything that moves, ignoring the flags (friendly and enemy) completely.
     
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  4. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Hello Nikkies,

    I think you misread it, it says regards :rolleyes:.

    I try to be there this evening, but not sure if I am going to make it.

    Groetjes.
    Flint
     
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  5. Darth Reaper

    Darth Reaper Active Member

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    I totally with you Bro, every time I grab flag no body support, also this events is too boring, I don’ t mind CTF but I mean 7 days CTF events seriously why not 24-48 hours different events that would be fun to keep changing the events.
     
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  6. Exploxion

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    CTF is for grinding for weapon achivement, so i understand why ppl focus on killing than catching the flag
     
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  7. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    But if the others catch the flag and bring it to their capture zone, you still lose.That is what happens a lot.
     
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  8. Darth Reaper

    Darth Reaper Active Member

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    This what I like how events should be
    Monday 24 hours: 2 vs 2
    Tuesday 48 hours 4 vs 4 CTF
    Thursday 24 hours 1 vs 1
    Friday 48 hours 5 vs 5
    Sunday no events as take a break

    Then new week
    Monday 48 hours 5 vs 5 CTF
    Wednesday 24 hours 3 vs 3
    Thursday 24 hours 1 vs 1
    Friday 48 hours 2 vs 2 CTF <<<this gonna be big challenge..
     
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  9. ChickenSurprise

    ChickenSurprise Active Member

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    In my battles its the opposite, everyone touches the flag but no one ever captures...
     
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  10. Kaletheshavage

    Kaletheshavage Member

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    Honestly, CTF has less stupidity than 5v5 dm. If your teammates die, it doesnt really affect the score so profit
     
  11. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    I like catch the flag, I always do the least amount of damage, but get the most coins. But often if I don't catch the flag, nobody does. And that I don't understand.
     
  12. Kaletheshavage

    Kaletheshavage Member

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    Idk. Sometimes I am the only one attacking, but I can make it halfway before passing it off to a teammate with more health. Might not be the best individual play but it is certainly the best team one.
     
  13. fragglelator

    fragglelator Active Member

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    While I don't particularly like CTF, I was playing Fixer yesterday (getting through daily mission and quests) and I managed to CTF twice ahhahahha. Also escorted a couple of teammates across the map and keeping them alive. Otherwise, would be playing shooter and defending.

    I would say that there have been some matches where players have been focused on killing/damage and the flags were neglected (probably why I managed to CTF in my fixer).
     
  14. JoshW

    JoshW Well-Known Member

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    How about the defenders and shooters who grab the flag and try to bring it home through the enemy spawn? If you don't know what to do with the flag then just don't grab it and protect the people who know what they're doing lol
     
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  15. Djradnad

    Djradnad Well-Known Member

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    It’s a mixed bag, i started with speeder and was capturing the flag, until I never got to touch the flag cause my teamates all switched to speeders with higher teir nitro/OB than me so I had to just focus on killing, but I was just getting frustrated by dying in seconds against every other boat with more weapon slots, while those faster speeders had no clue how to capture the flag they were just hoarding it for points, or if god forbid I got the flag they wouldn’t shoot anyone, just stare at my back hoping I would accidentally drop it so they could get it and hoard it, which just made them take all of the torps I was dodging and kill us both. Regardless I was just dying and getting less coins.

    Switched to interceptor when I got it but it’s in between fast and strong but not really great at either.

    Finally, today, I switched to shooter to die less and reduce my frustrations, trying to defend our flag or kill the carrier with my strong weapons was ending in failure because I couldn’t return the flag before an enemy nitroed into it and of course the team won’t help cause they are fighting over a the other flag and just dying like morons as previously mentioned...

    Finally, as if an epiphany, I have come to the conclusion (through many games) that SHOOTERS should capture and SPEEDERS should defend! Never found a team to be on the same page with this but doing my part to capture in the shooter has definitely ended well and with little frustration. If anyone wants to fleet with under this strategy I can use either speeder or shooter at 11k gs, thanks. Hope this may help you guys too if you have trouble grinding more than 100coins at a time
     
  16. JoshW

    JoshW Well-Known Member

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    That makes sense assuming the other teams speeders are capturing. If a shooter grabs the flag while you're defending as a speeder you're pretty much toast. And if a defenders grabs it you have no chance at all lol
     
  17. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Interesting... I bet it would work. CTF is all about position though. A Speeder (and lesser so Enforcer/Interceptor) can cross the map to get where they are needed most. As a Shooter/Defender without speed we have to do the best we can with where we already are.

    I frequently settle into defending with my Shooter if I have Speeders on my team because most players seem to be going for the flag. When I can successfully defend on my own I'll send all 4 of my teammates to return the flag, but so often I never see it returned, typically because the unfriends stack their box with 3-4 on defense. Maybe in that case my side is better off with me in the melee and leaving our flag to risk getting to the enemy zone? If the structure of the teams dictates it I'll definitely capture and escort the entire match. There's no absolutes, one needs to adapt to every match and every map.

    The problem is while this is truly a team event more than any other, the rewards system gives preference to those who carry the flag. For example I had a match today where the unfriend's Speeder came to capture over and over. I solo killed them and returned the flag literally the entire 5 minutes... at least a half dozen times with the flag never moving more than a short distance from our base the entire match. The Interceptor came a couple other times with the same result. The match ended in a draw and I got 4 coins for doing a flawless job defending while the Speeder got 9 coins for failing to advance the flag even once, 4 more coins than anyone else in the match.
     
  18. Djradnad

    Djradnad Well-Known Member

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    It definitely varies from game to game, I was using the usual strategies before but I had too many frustrating games as everyone else adopted those tactics so I decided to change it up completely and it works for me. If you are doing well how you are then keep at it, but if you get frustrated as I was then try switching your strategy as I mentioned. Can’t hurt right?

    It’s funny when I get to the flag just after my teamates but they die and I get the new flag just as their week guy comes with ours and I kill him and make off with theirs, maybe when I respawn I will decide to go back to our flag or theirs depending on the situation. Just don’t get caught in trying the same thing over and over and get upset that they were all waiting there for you to do the same thing again.

    Here is a clip of going to their flag as shooter being a success https://replay.battlebay.net/QXDLMHFF#GJHCDJRS
     
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  19. FearsomeChicken

    FearsomeChicken Well-Known Member

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    Hey guild mate, you've seen my defender replay right? Use that strategy, its pretty effective (and hardly anyone uses that strategy) :)
     
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  20. Rishi6793

    Rishi6793 New Member

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    i have lost yesterday 15 straight matches just because of brainless teammates ... players are more intrested in damage dealing ...
     

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