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Buff epics?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Joey who, 23 Aug 2017.

  1. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Why does a lvl 20 rare do better than a lvl 10 epic? Why does a lvl 30 rare do better than a lvl 20 epic? Why does a lvl 40 rare do better than a lvl 30 epic?

    Epics are tough as shit to upgrade, being a free to play player I see no use of upgrading to a lvl 30 epic when you can upgrade to a lvl 40 rare which is way easier.

    Epics do not surpass rares until tier 4 and I feel that's pretty dumb because of how hard they are to get and upgrade. Especially for free to play players. Epics might as well be legendaries to us but we can't get a good enough effect from them unless we somehow find 4.

    Epics should be 15 rare levels more effective than rares at same level. For example: A lvl 10 epic does the effect of a lvl 25 rare.

    Just my 2 cents. I have a level 12 epic sniper I don't feel like farming up because I have 2 tier 4 rares that do more damage than a lvl 20 epic sniper could.

    I know this would help the pay2win players aswell but at least us free2play players have a reason to use and upgrade our epics
     
  2. Babablacksheep

    Babablacksheep Well-Known Member

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    Its different for all classes, my epic tier 1 frost launcher and turbo(as good as lvl 25 rare one) are definitely better than lvl 20 rares of the same.
     
  3. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    Your arguments fall short for f2p because
    1. The f2p might be able to get only 2 epics to lvl 50 in a year ( if he stays that long) if he is lucky for ex check waveblower and he plays a lot.
    2. It is based heavy in the interest of the p2w players because of the above argument.
    3 . The post should have been about buff rares because that's the only thing f2p can get.
     
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  4. JustPlainSowad

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    man, leave it the way it is. Rare is the way to go and have most fun with. (free to play players)
     
  5. Joey who

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    For weapons it's pretty consistent. 10 lvl higher rares being better ifnot similar in effect
     
  6. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Buff rares so epics are even more useless?
     
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  7. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    Dude are they useless just think about it and check the battlebayitems site to compare the charts for every item
    I think you are just pissed off at legendary items and u want to make ur epic item reach there
    The balancing b/w epic and rare is pretty good and should not change
     
  8. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    I'm not pissed at all. I don't care if a player uses a legendary against me. They payed enough money that they should be able to advance passed me. What I am saying is when we get 3 epics we have no reason to get it to lvl 30 because it is so much work. Getting a lvl 40 rare would be 5x easier and much faster with same effect and perk slots
     
  9. Crashedup

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    And m telling u that it will lead to only more mess up than people will complain about that epics are too powerful they don't complain much about leggy weapons because they are less but epics are way more in the arena and u have to pay way less for them and whatever happens as I have stated them before it's takes a huge amount of time to get the epics weapons to the tier4 or 5 for f2p.
     
  10. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Players cry and moan about the game no matter what. If anything this is giving free to play players an advantage. There are 2 types of P2W players. The ones who use legendaries and rares because they don't believe in farming for epic parts so they are left with dupe epics they don't upgrade. And the hardcore college funds thrown at rovio players that pearl even their epic upgrades. Those players are in a high league and ifnot they deserve to advance for all that money anyways
     
  11. Joey who

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    I'm not asking for epics to be absurdly overpowered. Just want a reason that we should farm to upgrade them before we find 3 or 4 of the same item.
     
  12. Crashedup

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    Ok since u r not understanding my pts let's talk with stats Screenshot_20170823-123804.png Screenshot_20170823-123759.png this is the relative dmg stats against a legendary weapon .
    See lvl 50 rare is at 56 percent and a lvl 34 epic is at 56 percent so ur pt about making an epic atleast 15 lvl higher than epic is already there.
    And lvl 50 epic does about 77 percent of the dmg of leggy weapons so if we increase the stat the p2w player will complain and won't pay as much money to get leggy weapons because what's the use when epics are 5 times cheap and are a little bad.
     
  13. Joey who

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    Screenshot_2017-08-23-02-25-32.png Screenshot_2017-08-23-02-25-57.png Screenshot_2017-08-23-02-26-43.png Screenshot_2017-08-23-02-27-03.png level 34 is tier 4. Which I said surpass rares.

    But you can see epic lvl 20 and 30 don't differ much even on this item at rare lvl 30 and 40

    Edit: Hope we both clicked on blast cannon that was which I assumed you picked
     
  14. Crashedup

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    So from ur post it seems like what u want is not increase in dmg of epics over rares ( just comparing red slots from instance)
    But u want consistent increase in dmg while lvling up an epic item u feel that there should not be a sudden buff in the dmg lvl after tier 3 . The dmg increase should be consistent with every lvl.
    Fyi lvl 30 epic gets about lvl 43 rare which is pretty sweet in my opinion
    And if u don't have 4 pieces of a weapons it's not Worthing lvling up except leggy;)
     
  15. ColdOne

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    Even with only rares you can get in the Nightmare league. dont see the point to buff epics.
     
  16. Crashedup

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    And next time pls make a post to buff rares at later lvl I will support u all the way and so will other players because lvl 1 leggy is higher than lvl 50 rare.
    MIND BLOWN
     
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  18. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Lol I maxed that game out already. I don't play it anymore
     
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  19. Joey who

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    Back to topic; Epics don't even need a buff to where lvl 50 does way more damage. It could just start off at a higher level.

    For example. A max legendary doesn't differ much from a max epic. Ever noticed that?

    It is because a legendary starts off with high damage unlike all the other items. Epics could start off a bit more than how much they do right now. But a level 50 epic would still do the same. (This is helping lower level epics)

    If you don't get that let me explain.

    If you see at the right. They all move up equally at lvl 50. But at lvl 1 legendary it starts off really high.
    Screenshot_2017-08-23-12-15-15.png
    Epics could start off a bit higher (so max epics would keep same damage)
     
  20. CaffeinatedChris

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    I'd prefer Legendaries to start off lower but you can't really un-ring that bell now.
     

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