Any tips for grenade launcher?

Last night I just got my first legendary weapon, a grenade launcher, probably one of the most unloved weapon in battle bay, second only to carronade or tri trop. So, after I played some battles with it I figured out that it's a b**ch weapon to handle. It's very situational because of its slow projectile speed and very short range. I'm considering of dropping this and going back with my swift torpedo.

But before doing that I think it's a good idea to ask grenade users out there (if there's any). Can you give me any tips playing this weapon?
And what's your perk preference? Range or burn chance?
Many thanks.

 

I'm a brawler type shooter, I mainly play mid range but oftentimes charge to close range whenever possible. My main setups are explosive cannon, blast cannon and missiles, sometimes with torps.

You make a very good point with range perk, I guess it won't help much since it has a really slow projectile. I might go full burn perks in that case.

And you're right about the weapon quest. All my guild mates are leaving all the responsibility of grenade quests to me since no one else use this weapon, lol.

 

You must not be fully trained with Issac. The grenade is used in high infamy extremely frequently with devestating results. It is a super powerful weapon in the right hands and situation.

Turkett

 

Lucky you, mine was fire bomb. I have used grenade since mk3, but it’s really best at late game. So here is my insight to grenade.
Isak levels 22, 25, 29 and 30 are almost mandatory. Grenade’s performance increases a lot when the fire does 2x more dmg 20% more often. Other really good talents are Buzzkill level 30 (+2 range) and Burnice level 30 (+1 range).
Use fire perks, if you can. While range perks are good and help with its short range, 9% bigger crit chance really gives more dmg. Fire perks are extremely rare though, only seen 1 in raffle and they don’t appear frequently in shop either.
Aiming it requires a lot of practise, especially against speeders and enfos. Maybe try some custom battles before real ones. Usually if a ship is going forward at full speed, you need to aim at least 1 or 2 ship lenghts ahead.
Try pairing it up with cannons, especially with a high fire chance. 1 cycle of my epic L31 blast and t5 rare grenade does over 2500 dmg.
Overall grenade, along with rg and berta are the hardest weapons to master on the bay. But they also give good dmg as a reward, so don’t give up on it
@Stelmo do you want to add anything?

 

I wish developers could add this statistics:
https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/game-statistics.16051/

It would allow people to understand whether the weapon they use is effective with their gaming style and skill.
Talking about grenade launcher, in one of the thread I saw a guy posting his total weapon damage statistics just after the update.
The grenade launcher had the worst result (maybe 5 times less than blast cannon)

 

Here’s my grenade and setup

It’s perfect weapon for close range brawling. It also fits well with cannons, just make sure you have something for long range as well (sniper, rg, lrm).

 

All I know is that I have done 256k dmg with my rare t5 grenade and 249k dmg with my epic t4 big torp after the update. It’s not an all-around weapon like sniper, but when used well, it yields very high and satisfying results.

 

Its a dangerous weapon in right hands and becoming quite popular in nightmare especially among enforcers and defenders
My advice is use it against slow moving boats since it projectile is too slow for fast moving yellow boats.
It's better with ships with high ground like enforcer shooter or defender for low height ships like speeders it a little tricky to use but if you are a speeder my advice is try to hide behind waves and launch ur grenade it will help you in saving ur HP.
Best grenade player is bzirdiyan.
Ask Eeyore for his tag and talk to him in game for in depth knowledge of grenade usage

 

Training is really important.
You should try to pick up range wherever you can without sacrificing too much of the crit (burn) chance, even +1 range makes a huge difference.
Get the +50% burn damage talents from Isak as soon as you can man, they make all the difference.
Works best on enfo/speeder/defender but I've seen a lot of shooters using it to great effect since the buff.
Paired with blast/ec it's devastating, at the top end a single grenade/ec combo is worth almost 5000hp.

This is my little beauty. Another 800000 damage and I'll have a legendary one to go with it

 

With crew training and 3 epic perks Grenade Launcher reaches 76% fire crit damage (triggers fire in 3 out of 4 hits).
Fire ticks 4 times in 4 seconds... without training fire will deal 40% With full training it will deal 80%

So you got a legendary weapon which will deal 180% damage 3 out of 4 times once you learn how to lead its projectiles properly and you train Isak fully. Furthermore it will buff your cannons to deal more damage when it triggers fire, if you play ExC+BC+Grenade and you're fast, you will be able to hit with both cannons once your grenade triggers fire, that's easily 3.5k damage.

Now tips:
1. It works like a leaded shot of any cannon, but you must beware that its projectile is slower.
2. You can shoot over waves and walls
3. If u know there's an enemy approaching behind the wall, you can shoot to the corner so he will get hit when gets there.

However you will learn only if you use it in several battles, it's tricky but not impossible

 

Yes, my Isaac is underdeveloped because I never use any Isaac related items before. But I can really see the potential of grenade with +50% fire damage perk on Isaac training tree.
I can imagine it because a quite fearsome weapon with proper Isaac training.

 

The darned thing is, I have actually got few epic burn chance perks from raffle in the past. But, like a proper dumbass, I sold it for gold, thinking I'm never gonna need it in the future.
I might have to wait months before I come across another one.

Also, your explanation is very thorough and detailed, thanks mate.

 

don´t scrap, sure you will miss in the future

 

No way in hell I'm gonna scrap a legendary weapon .
Even though I can't use it, I'm just gonna put it in my inventory as a trophy, lol.
But based on the replies, I'm sure I can make a good use of it, I just need to properly train Isaac.
Now that's gonna take few weeks, now we play the waiting game.

 

Wow guys, thanks a lot for the replies. You guys have been very informative and super helpful. I want to personally reply to each of you, but it's 2AM here and I can't think straight.

@Stelmo and @A55A51N, badass grenades you got there, mates. I can feel the burn just by looking at your screenshots. Can't wait to get my grenade to be as good as yours, though it's gonna take few weeks with the Isaac training.
The only thing that worries me is getting the burn perks, I hope RNG is in my favor. Well, it seems like a perfect time to join the battle bay praying circle.