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Add a Nightmare subsection on the forum

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Kitterini, 11 May 2018.

  1. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Headline sums it up I guess. The forum is pested through and through with clueless lowlevel players, and its making meaningful conversation impossible.

    By all means let them keep their space, but could we have a subsection that requires ingame account confirmation & >x infamy (fx 4000) to gain posting privelege for? I'd much rather read what Yellowocean has to suggest, than having to read yet another post from a lvl 45 who thinks evil corrupt matchmaking is whats keeping him below 1k infamy.

    Just maybe some of the rare appearances of the quality players could turn into higher activity - So many players out there that a much better than me, I want a place where I can learn from them. In the current state this forum is a place you go whenever you feel the need to become 5% dumber.
     
  2. Ash KOT

    Ash KOT MVP

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    I 100% understand where you are coming from, i often come across posts and think "jeez, another one?!".
    That said the new players are not clueless, they just have a different perception of the game, as it is so varied between 500 infamy and 5000.
    Things they think are a problem, are irrelevant by the end and vice versa.

    The only thing I would like to highlight, is that nightmare players are just as capable of posting utter garbage, you can see this from VIP Chat.
    Majority of players there are in Nightmare and often talk utter rubbish, non stop, with a bit of salt and a few insults for good measure.
     
  3. TheFixer27

    TheFixer27 Well-Known Member

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    Don't forget that Ace and master players can post valuable messages too
     
  4. HARPO!

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  5. Help I Cant Swim

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    I'd be all for some more segregation in the forums. Maybe we can even create a sub where Defenders aren't allowed. And @HARPO!. He isn't allowed either.
     
  6. HARPO!

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  7. Ash KOT

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    You think the devs will create a complete section and then let @Kitterini decide who can access it??

    Kitterini's idea is actually quite good, as will allow users of similar infamy levels to discuss ideas about the game at that infamy stage without making others where it doesnt apply have to read the same stuff.

    However we would never have forum users, deciding who can access what sections, this decision would be made by the devs.

    Personally I think all forum users should have access to all areas of the forums, as the tips from nightmare guys can be great for new players, and just because players are new they might have some new tricks the old dogs were not aware of.

    So I am not against new sections being set up to help people talk to people at a similar infamy level, but I do not agree with restricting access to certain members based on in game infamy.
     
  8. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    New players absolutety have valid opinions, they have tons more authority when discussing lowlevel issues for example.

    I dont want to take anything away from anyone, all I dream of is a place where discussions could focus on the stuff I find interesting (endgame)
     
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  9. Ash KOT

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    Yes and I am in total agreement.
    It would be much easier for users to find info that is relevant to them.
     
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  10. Miathan

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    @Ash KOT I think a section where low lvl / low infamy players can't talk would actually be great, as long as they can still read it. Give everyone access to this "nightmare" subforum, but let only those with verified >4k infamy have the ability to post. I think that could be great, and I'm not even in nightmare league.
     
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  11. CaffeinatedChris

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    There's been discussions about this, and right now I don't believe further forum segregation is the answer. The correct idea, IMO, is somewhere in the lines of changing the forum culture to encourage users to post their own infamy/experience level when offering advice, so that other players can determine how well it applies to them.
     
  12. Ash KOT

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    Theoretically it sounds great, all these advanced players sharing the deepest secrets of BattleBay success.
    But pop your head in VIP chat for 5 mins and you will see that it can be just as toxic / useless.
    We have moderators here so that if "noobs" start talking rubbish in the NML section then we can remove them etc, but trying to set permissions for everyone here depending on infamy level is not plausible.
     
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  13. Help I Cant Swim

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  14. HARPO!

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  15. Kitterini

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    The VIP chat is such a friendly place heh, decided to disable VIP again after a week. The quest benefits are great, but not worth having popups with matchmaking complaints and random moaning between every game.
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    Sure its plausible, thats not the same as them actually wanting to do it though :) My experience from posting endgame meta snapshots is that the comments always turn into mk4 players commenting that their boat certainly isnt overpowered at 450 infamy, having 1 small subsection of the forum with protection against that would be a blessing.
     
  16. *JAWS*

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    As a nitemare player for now over 8 months... the players most likely to troll and do worthless writing in the VIP site has always been under 4k.

    Doesn't mean 4k+ players don't troll. But majority of criticism good players give towards others are purely game related. And these are the best of the best making the comments. As Iron sharpens iron.

    I personally couldn't care less to read a comment from a player I have never battle against once. Or hasn't killed my ship once.

    At that point any comment about the game.... doesn't relate.

    The game style needed above 4k. Is completely different than 2k.

    I have no problem people reading anything written.

    But agree whole heartedly with Kitterini that the chat function should be limited by infamy. Same as me going to a master' league discussion now. It's been over 10 months since I was masters. What do I know about what these newer players are facing now?
    Part of discussion is admitting what u know. And what u dont.

    And when VIP gets overrun with nonsense. Players stop their subscription. Ie. Less money.

    My suggestion is more nuanced. Keep VIP. But have a couple channels. 3 tiers. And allow access everywhere. But limit chat capability to boats ability.

    Let aptitude determine one altitude. And access.

    Jaws
     
  17. ViscountSniffit

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    Aww, your own little secluded space, where you can go feel superior, and hold hands with Yellowocean... How romantic :p
     
  18. Help I Cant Swim

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    The majority of complaints and "worthless writing" in VIP come from overpowered players perpetually between 3.5k and 4.5k infamy.
     
  19. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Who told you about my vacation plans? ;)
     
  20. Rainbow Warrior

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    I know a lot of nightmare players who think the game is rigged, I guess you'll be kind of disapointed if devs created what you are asking for
    I agree it'd be cool to have sessions of the forum for different leagues on Strategy and class discussion :D
     
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