What should be done with sniper? Poll

Leading shots a lot less and taking a lot less skill to hit

Explo has longer cooldown 1,1s, 15 smaller range, and 25 smaller projectile base speed. And because of all the cannon speed and range boosts sniper’s advantages just increase talent by talent.

Seriously, so many people think it needs a nerf (votes now 40-34 for nerf) This discussion won’t lead anywhere, sniper users won’t suddenly come to their senses and want a more balanced game, and we won’t ever see sniper as not op. So can this thread just get locked, because this will only be repeating the same arguments over and over again

 

The people who thinks it needs a nerf can't even agree on what should be nerfed. They just want it nerfed for the sake of nerfing lol

 

Well leading is leading. What skill is to know your projectile speed and target moving speed and direction.
And Sniper means A one shot, high range, high damage weapon. If nerfed it won't be called sniper lol.
And check the votes again its 33 fr nerf since spreading the tree is not a nerf its a adjustment.
Its 34-33 and if we take spreading the tree than its 41-33 for no nerf.
This will not be another endless discussion, it will be the end of this discussion. Thats what The Poll is for.

 

Oh sorry, tree adjustment isn’t a nerf, forgot that
I don’t think that snipers long range capabilities should be nerfed. A slight buff to railgun would make more options for long range weapons. And the only skill that sniper requires is the long range aiming.

But at this moment it’s just as powerful in close range. The only weapon that even slightly beats it is excannon at close range. So any boat that doesn’t go to close combat, sniper will be the best option over rg or mortars.
And this isn’t going to be an endless discussion, we’ll get this thread locked sooner or later

 

Here is some insight for you.

 

I think sniper should get a crit chance nerf... it is a lot harder to avoid then other weapons at close and long ranges, projectile speed is fast... and less arc then explosive. Crit chance nerf will make it crit less often and/or a crit damage nerf will lower the damage when it crits so yellow boats aren't crippled by this weapon. The sniper cannon is a deadly weapon that is hard to avoid... lets look at explosive cannon for example: yea sure the damage is great and when it crits it is devastating but is best used in close range... the arc and projectile speed makes it harder to aim and easier to avoid than sniper cannon so the trade off is you have to get closer to your enemies to use explosive cannon effectively... with sniper you can be far away and still do a lot of damage:
-Projectile speed makes it hard to avoid
-crit chance is higher than other cannons
-is easier to aim

I believe the critical hits are a bit of a problem... whether the chance is lowered or the damage is lowered i think something needs to be changed... even if the base damage was buffed and nerf the critical hits that would be ok...

 

Ohh..why because things aren't going your way?

 

Wow, opinions! So what you are saying is that because some people rather use blast instead of sniper, it isn’t op! Case closed, I’m out!

 

What is that supposed to mean...
that is not fair the question is "Which one is better for enforcer?" not in general... I think if you asked which is better in general we would get different results...

 

Yeah case closed.. why will people intentionally choose a less range, slow projectile weapon over a op weapon which works great at long and close range.

 

Offcourse it will be different because sniper makes sense for shooters who like to play from far, not because it is op.
People are arguing that it is better than other weapons in close range too. My post proves them wrong.
After some practice ec and bc are way better in close range.

 

I think people think it shouldn't be as powerful in close range thats why someone suggested that crit chance or damage be affected by range(like railgun) so that the closer you are the less effective it is... but i don't know about sniper being better than ec or bc in close range...

I wish there were stats of like average damage in "x" games with sniper vs blast vs explosive

 

If you need to use skill to to avoid snipers, then that just proves how massively unfair it is, because it requires zero skill to shoot one.

And actually, I’m always working on my skills, I worked my way up to Ace League, and I’m still climbing. But that doesn’t preclude me from coming here and talking about something that I think is broken within the game. I can do both: work on my skills, and complain here. It’s not a problem for me.

And for what it’s worth, @YSL has also posted here about sniper crits being a problem. Are you also going to tell her to work on her ‘skills’?

Yeah, sadly, I’m already on it...



It’s not quite ready yet (still needs a lot of sugar), and I’ll have to switch all my Bhurt training, which is quite a hassle. But I’ve been using it in a few custom games.

I must confess it took me a while to get used to how rediculously easy it is to hit with, and it felt strange not needing to lead shots.

But yeah, if they’re not going address the balance problem, then I guess I’ll just have to take advantage of it. But honestly, I think the game would be better with more variety, rather than 80% of players running sniper/shooter.

 

It proves NOTHING!!!! It is a thread with OPINIONS!! They ARE NOT FACTS!!!!!
I’ll do a comparison with sniper, ec and blast later if you want some facts

 

Agree with you.Speeders dont want any weopon to hit them at long range when they are are running after creating havoc with their big torps etc.No other weopon has the range or projectile speed to deal with speeders after they are running to heal themselves.
Most speeders want this weapon gone or nerfer so that they are immune at long range.Carronade is a speeder killer but at short range.Sniper as already been nerfed a lot.Leave it alone.

 

Ha ha speeders have more health than an mk5 enforcer when using big shield while an mk 5 enforcer cant even use big shield. I see 4000+ speeders running big shield plus bandage and overboost plus nitro.Sniper is there for a reason.To deter speeders from any misadventures.If there is no sniper cannon a speeder will take out the fixer from behind,take some damage,Go into hiding and comeback fully recovered.Sniper prevents that.

 

Most complainers here about sniper....yes.

.all speeders.

Start noticing it.

Yellow boats are hard to hit. Fact.

And then they want the one weapon that can hit them to be nerfed. Classic.

It ain't OP.

The poll has a run away favorite. It is do nothing to sniper.

Leave it alone has won.

Give these sniper nerf forums a rest. Frost got nerfed by angry mob idiots. Lets not be the next angry mob who begs for a weapon nerf just because it successully hits your yellow boat.
I am a big blue ugly boat driver. Everything hits my boat. Deal with it. I dont go begging torpedoes to be needed tho every torpedo can and does hit me.
U will get shot. It happens to be a sniper. So what. Play on and enjoy being fast. Go to next match. Get better.

 

How bout making it works like AP shells in WoWs

 

Sure why not...make it whats better in close range.