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Improve guild quest contribution

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Elothean, 27 Dec 2017.

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improve quest contribution

  1. yes

    25 vote(s)
    96.2%
  2. no

    0 vote(s)
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  3. i don’t have a guild

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    3.8%
  1. Elothean

    Elothean Active Member

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    We’ve noticed that the contribution points for the guild quests are skewed towards the early boards. It means if you complete an entire quest for board 1, you will have the same contribution when you complete a quest from board 5 all by yourself. This may be a minor thing but it is very important to the guild’s decision makers who to keep and who to let go, especially in a guild with lots of requests to join. Please just base the contribution to the actual number of damage or wins for all the board rather than quest completed. Your 10 kills in board 1 should have the same contribution as your 10 kills in board 5.
     
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  2. Elothean

    Elothean Active Member

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    more votes?
     
  3. craz¥burd

    craz¥burd Well-Known Member

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    Totally agree....we’re having this debate within our guild.
    We’ve been using cups/trophies to measure who has been active/inactive and contributed within our guild...but this season was the first time I was able to contribute to board one and two instead of thre four and five, and I am top contributor in my guild, but for far less effort. It’s not a fair measure...and difficult to know how to ensure you’re kicking the right people for the right reasons....
     
  4. Elothean

    Elothean Active Member

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    I hope they'll do something about this
     
  5. Wainwright

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    An easy way to fix it would be to multiple the trophies by the board number (1X 2X etc) to get a better idea of the members activity
     
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  6. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    We've offered multiple threads on this completely broken Trophy calculation. Here's how it works now

    Easy board: 1X effort, 1000 trophies available per quest.
    Medium: 8X effort, 1000 trophies per quest.
    Hard: 64X effort, 1000 trophies per quest.
    ...etc.

    We can have a guild member complete a bunch of easy quests in a couple hours, take the rest of the week off, and still have more trophies than the others who spend 6 extra days grinding.
    It's ludicrous, and to add insult to injury guild leaders are known to kick people on this completely flawed calculation.
    Either fix this or remove it from the game entirely.

    Seriously. Don't delay.
    Devs?
     
  7. Trium

    Trium Active Member

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    Wow, I didn't even know that it works in this way.

    This is ridiculous.

    But I would also like to have more improvements on Guilds and Rivalry.

    For example, the possibility to see players contribution for last 2-4 weeks (some people may be busy or go on vacation).
    Also it would be nice to see info about contribution on the guild list, where you may actually kick people, instead of switching the screens all the time.
     
  8. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    In my guild I calculated the difference in overall matches vs trophies acquired, and there is literally no correlation between the two.
    In one case a player accounted for 2.2% of the total guild matches and received 6.5% of overall trophies.
    In another case a player accounted for 10.2% of all guild matches, but only received 3.2% of the trophies.
    I could go on, it's all over the board.

    Devs, please fix this or remove trophies entirely.
     
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  9. Trium

    Trium Active Member

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    Where do you watch "guild matches"?
     
  10. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    If you need further evidence... In the first 30 minutes of this rivalry I acquired 2x the amount of trophies as I did the entire rivalry prior where I put in over 200 matches over 7 days. In that rivalry I started on the hard board. Again, the problem is that bad, and really deserves an immediate patch.

    I do it manually, and it's a pain. The trophies system is that bad, and that misleading. I've used it to save people in my guild that otherwise would have been kicked due to lack of accurate data, or in this case, completely misleading data.
     
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  11. Trium

    Trium Active Member

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    I agree, right now there is no acceptable way to monitor the activeness of your members (furthermore, i even didn't know that current system is such a lame)

    The only way is by making screenshoots everyday and then comparing.. which will basicaly take few hours every week.
    I'm not ready for this.

    Rovio, we need fix ASAP.
    Also it would be great to create auto filter, which would kick people, whose 2 week contribtuion is below the set value :)
     
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  12. Help I Cant Swim

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    https://forum.battlebay.net/threads...ht-the-guild-quest-trophies.13853/#post-74572

    Posted about this a looooooooooooooooooooooong time ago. Still nothing.
     
  13. enotSenO

    enotSenO Active Member

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    Rovio created guild system and de-values it by not yet fixing the contribution points. Why does it take so long?
     
  14. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    They've already stated that they have heard our requests. Honestly, it would be nice, but there's much bigger fish for them to fry. If it is not in the next update (soon), then I'm sure they'll get to it.
     
  15. GigaBeard

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    Agreed, this needs fixing.

    Also, having a longer history available to guild leaders on each member's contributions would aid in making informed and fair decisions on who to keep/remove from the guild.
     
  16. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Rovio works like a giant corporation... seemingly too much red tape to make a single tweak to the software, they would rather throw a bunch of stuff in a release every few months and hope it works out.
     
  17. PastelPiku

    PastelPiku Well-Known Member

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    Was this fixed in the previous update?
     
  18. Help I Cant Swim

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  19. PastelPiku

    PastelPiku Well-Known Member

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  20. Elothean

    Elothean Active Member

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    I think this is a resolved issue, thanks for the discussions!
     
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