I'm done

How many of those completely! F2p in Nightmare started playing before you revamped the shop system?
If scaling wasnt as absurd as it is, then epic gear taking 2-4years to complete would be less of an issue

There is slow progress that comes with the knowledge that eventually I will get there, and then there is 100% rng progress which in combination with superslow item acquisition makes for losing interest in your (otherwise great) game.
I dont mind grinding, if I know that it will get me to some point. The scale (after the shop patch) has moved from hope to hopeless, for me anyway.

 

totally true, all top F2P are here since start of game, now it's impossible to do the same... the max a player can do each day is 75 star, for getting green item...

 

Im gonna say this. And this 1 reason is why MM must be fixed.
Because with all mk5s and 6s and hell even 7s. Someome..anyone can go into that matcj, using an mk1 and all uncommom weapons if they wanted. And that alone shows something like a cap needs. Foreal like its bs. Idc how many i see a week or a month. It happens. Thats not the only flaw, but its a big one.

 

People are not perfect. Why this game has to?

 

People can improve, why shouldn't this game?
I'll bet 99% of players and devs agree on this!

 

Agree with this, unfortunately i've got green items or weapons that i don't use. But i've got at least 10 epic items, and i have 4 months playing

 

So people get more epic items on average... Seems like I'm left out when the epics are rewarded

 

I don't think his complaints are that the matches are unfair overall but that they aren't fun. Yes, this is subjective but there are some things that I think most people would agree aren't fun when going against higher tiered (ships/weapons) players.

For instance, an MK6 shooter with tier 4 epics can drive straight into 3 MK4s without moving/dodging or anything and still gets one of those MK4s down to 15% before they go down. The MK4 player with tier 2 rares that is down to 15% health is frustrated because they played decently and the MK6 played like an idiot but just because of their higher tier weapons and ships they were somewhat effective. The MK6's team feels crappy because it is just another feeder from a player that is way below their expected Infamy level. It doesn't matter who won/lost. It just sucks.

I know the nature of the game and leveling up means this will not change, but it is a frustration. It is almost impossible to have a game where you can level up the power level of weapons and ships and also have fun, fair and balanced matchmaking.

MOBAs have characters that are all even in theory (let's remove meta balance because that can be true here and in any competitive game), Call of Duty gives players access to a variety of weapons, none exceptionally OP, Destiny does have gun and equipment leveling, but they balance everything to the same level in PVP (i.e. an MK6 and MK2 would have similar health and their weapons would do similar damage). Those examples don't really work in a game like this. Destiny is the closest, but you have single player/raid content you can enjoy using higher level weapons. Battle Bay is PVP only, so you need to feel more powerful somehow...

 

4 years is at 1 epic pr week (35 different items*6 = 210 required). So Ill admit that 4 years is probably too pessimistic. On the other hand my Rng is way below average if an average player is gaining more than 2 pr week (and thus reaching tier5 epics faster than in 2 years, assuming an even distribution).
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While its probably pointless to argue numbers against a guy with full data access, I'll admit that I cant fathom that the new system is better for players.

- Are we including the influx of people that spend 20k+ $ when finding an average?

- Are we counting epics seen in shop or epics actually bought in the old system? I could have acquired perhaps double the amount of epics (probably even more) in the old system, but back then you didnt have to spend 1.5million for an epic you didnt want. (As opposed to now where its upwards to 2.9 million pr diceroll). I.e. now you "have" to buy everything and pray, before you cherrypicked.

So yes, I probably gather more epics than before. But I also scrap the majority of them instantly.

 

So 576 days to t5 epic (if we assume even distribution). Not 2 years, but close even for the #1 hardest farming/luckiest

Impressive though, I've spend money and played for months before global and he has me beat in rares, while only being 18epics short.

How many games played? (If we want to pretend like this is representational)

 

Wow! With those numbers I guess I'm a really bad player and should never spend on this game again...ir I can go ahead and join the ever expanding list of seal clubbers.

 

tl;dr...

Matchmaking is now broken. I was in chat the other night with a mk2 shooter asking how to take down the mk5 defenders he's facing. I told him "It's not going to happen".
I went into battle against a mk6 defender last night(?). Regardless of their skill these higher ships are still bring massive amounts of hit points, high tier weapons, and i've seen legendary items at 1500.
All they have to do it get lucky with a legendary rail gun and it's over for that player that gets hit.

My guild leader who used to play more religiously than me said the game is bullshit and he's out. Don't know if it'll stick the way my quitting did but the last two weeks has not been good for people in my friends list.
It sure feels like something changed.

-edit: Don't get me wrong. I don't see an easy fix because these players all have the same skill level. But a mk6 shooter is still a mk6 shooter regardless of who's piloting.

 

To use some personal game stats here
Ive played 5808 battles. Joined a week or two after the global launch. Ftp.
I come in every day for daily, quests, calendar, and star rewards/crates.
In that time ive found 166 rares and 19 epics

Of course, the amount of epics and rares found depend a lot on how active you are (opening crates, daily playing, etc)
One thing i know for sure is im not able to reach 75 stars a day, and only did so more towards the beginning of the game.

So i believe ive been playing for 23 weeks since global launch, thats .83 epics per week and 7.2 rares per week.

After playing for these 23 weeks, ive gotten the opportunity to make a few tier 2 epics and 1 tier 3 epic.

 

The last grenade just fell into my lucky lap.
Just 9 days of training left to go

 

Its matches like this that kee

gimmegimmegimme!
I got a t3 rare...

 

I don't get it. I don't understand what people think they want from a game where one team (generally) always loses.

I must be alone in thinking the matchmaking system works fine in that it creates teams of players not by what ships or items they've managed to collect or buy but by a pretty accurate measure of their ability to use those items - namely infamy. Additionally I don't see a mismatch in ship types. Usually if they've got a fixer then we do. Sure it's never a perfect 50/50 but I'd prefer the current variability rather than waiting 5 minutes for a battle to start.

Just to go back to my original statement. People should remember that for each battle 50% of the participants lose. Losing isn't fun but it is an integral part of the game.