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Defender and Guardian

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Guncaptain809, 31 Jan 2019.

  1. Guncaptain809

    Guncaptain809 Well-Known Member

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    So what exactly is the point of defenders existence anymore now that Guardian is a thing?
     
    Guncaptain809, 31 Jan 2019
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    Guardian is really OP with Two Defense walls . i try to break them with two exp cannon shots but didn't break . and when there was no defense wall exp cannons were taking time to cool down . defender have no defense just lots of HP .
     
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  3. Ash KOT

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    Defender has 3 weapon slots, guardian only has 2 so they are different animals.
    Guardian is also better at team support than the defender with the new teal items like defence wall.
     
    Ash KOT, 31 Jan 2019
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  4. Guncaptain809

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    It’s still an overall better ship to use though
     
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  5. TheAntiSnipe

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    The defender is tankier in terms of role at least, however, I think that DW is OP right now. It's outrageously strong and makes up and then some for the Guardian's non-tanky nature... Yeah, I guess this raises some hard-to-answer questions about the defender's role... again.
     
    TheAntiSnipe, 31 Jan 2019
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  6. Redneck Messiah

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    The defender's role is to be fat and poke people with Gatling guns. Simple.
     
    Redneck Messiah, 31 Jan 2019
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  7. Guncaptain809

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    I still think defender should have some base defense that increases with each level upgrade
     
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  8. Ash KOT

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    Or allow defender to take a 2 point teal item :)
     
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  9. Redneck Messiah

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    YES! The defender is supposed to be a tank, but it can't use either of the teal items that would allow it to be tanky. Hmmm...
     
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  10. Guncaptain809

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    Nah. But I do think some of the teal items need switched around. Defense aura should be a 2 slot item and bolster armour should only be a 1 slot. This would actually help defender tank more hits. I think the shield wall would be slightly too strong on defender.
     
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  11. Earel

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    If bolster will be a one slot item defender delete any shooter without chance..
     
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  12. Guncaptain809

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    Dude bolster sucks as a 2 slot item. It’s basically a defense aura you can use on yourself.
     
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  13. RACK STAR

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    Bolster is horrible. I have a legendary bolster armour. Maxed perks. Maxed training. U die quickly relying on it. 6 second in usage time. 14 seconds cool down. Would be better as a 1 slot item.
     
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  14. RACK STAR

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    And... no double wall isn't op. A yellow boat can still torch a guardian pretty easily 1vs1. Speeders give guardians fits. Guardian are meant to block shots against mortar bearing shooters. Yes that might seem lame. But that is the role of the double wall. Don't like your shot being blocked. Use a torpedo or reposition and flank.
     
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  15. Flipscuba

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    Seriously. This would be such a good change for Defender. Which means they definitely won't do it. Because Defender has to be literally the worst at everything except HP pool.
     
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  16. RACK STAR

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    Developers will never fix defender. The bias they have regarding this boat...is wild. It's the only boat they will never fix
     
    RACK STAR, 4 Feb 2019
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  17. Redneck Messiah

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    THERE'S HOPE FOR US SPEEDERS YET
     
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  18. Flipscuba

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    You mean the annoying little shits who're almost impossible to kill unless you're ALSO a yellow boat?
     
    Flipscuba, 4 Feb 2019
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    Yep, that's us.


    We pride ourselves on pissing people off lol
     
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  20. TheAntiSnipe

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    Thanks for the compliment, non-yellow boat peasant. All praise Buzzkill, may her teslacoils buzz forever! :p

    And in case I wasn't clear, /joke /sarcasm
     
    TheAntiSnipe, 7 Feb 2019
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