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explosive+flare vs blast+flare?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Alpakaa, 12 Jan 2019.

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  1. blast and flare

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  2. explosive and flare

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  1. Alpakaa

    Alpakaa Member

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    Is there an advantage or disadvantage to each? I'm talking specifically for speeder.
     
    Alpakaa, 12 Jan 2019
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  2. Redneck Messiah

    Redneck Messiah Well-Known Member

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    Explosive/Flare is the superior combo damage-wise.
    Blast/Flare has slightly less damage, but faster reload time and projectiles on the cannon.
    There are a lot of players who use each, although in my opinion Blast/Flare is better.
     
    Redneck Messiah, 12 Jan 2019
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  3. JoshW

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    I definitely prefer blast, I can get in two shots from my blast before my first flare runs out making it unnecessary to flare them a second time.
    This is useful for those tight situations where you need the boosted damage but don't want to be exposed for too long.
     
    JoshW, 12 Jan 2019
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  4. Sewah

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    Max Trained Talent Fire Damage
    Explosive Canon 25%
    Blast Canon 20%

    Splash Damage
    Explosive Canon yes (i dont know how many %)
    Blast Canon none

    Max Trained Talent Damage
    Explosive Canon Approximately 1700 (no damage perk)
    Blast Canon 1400 (no damage perk)

    This is why I prefer Explosive Canon with my Speeder.

    Hit-and-Run and Hunt-and-Kill is my playstyle in Speeder.
     
    Sewah, 12 Jan 2019
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  5. -729835959

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    (Fire damage is actually same.
    Explosive cannon's splash damage radius is 2.)
     
    -729835959, 12 Jan 2019
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  6. TheAntiSnipe

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    So I was talking about that just now.

    Explosive flare is a high cooldown, short-mid range combo that's only really reliable up close. It's an assassin's combo. It needs a style that comes in close, lands a huge blow, and runs away and lays low for a while.

    Blast flare is a low cooldown, close-mid-high range combo that is versatile and works well at all ranges. It works well with pretty much every style in the game, except perhaps ranger(since flare is not as reliable as blast). It does fall short of ex-flare in terms of assassination, but more than makes up for it in versatility.


    Up to you really. Would you wish to be an assassin or a multirole player?
     
    TheAntiSnipe, 13 Jan 2019
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  7. Sewah

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    Both at 25%?

    Hmmmm maybe i didn't count correctly.
     
    Sewah, 13 Jan 2019
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  8. -729835959

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    There's one +10% actually.
     
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  9. Su-57

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    I prefer one Firebom and two Exp Cannons on my Shooter with a Standard cannon and one single point weapon sometimes its blast cannon sometimes long rang mortar .

    I like exp cannon because they have splash dmg too so when two boats are close or sometimes even if my team make block the shot it still do dmg . dmg on boats close by is really useful m and i don't see big difference in range and projectile speed . Blast cannon cooldown is low but still 9 second . i use standard cannon for distance shots and faster projectile give accurate shots and when exp cannon reload ai use standard cannon . for me this setup really work .
     
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  10. Kurd1stan.

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    And that is why I think BLAST CANNON needs a small nerf.


    Yup, gonna make a nerf thread rn:p.
     
    Kurd1stan., 13 Jan 2019
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  11. Agile Vanguard

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    FBI, open up!
     
    Agile Vanguard, 16 Jan 2019
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  12. Redneck Messiah

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    We blast cannon cultists cannot let this behavior stand, init?
     
    Redneck Messiah, 16 Jan 2019
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  13. Vile Kyle

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    Blast cannon is weak as F even at highest epic lvl for a hit and run speeder... yeah cool down is better then X cannon but the fact it only hits one ship makes it most definitely not useful for a hit and run speeder.
     
    Vile Kyle, 16 Jan 2019
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  14. Redneck Messiah

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    several hit and run speeders would like to disagree.

    @TheAntiSnipe
    @Agile Vanguard
    @Redneck Messiah
    guys... this man is dissing our blast speeders.
     
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    Redneck Messiah, 16 Jan 2019
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  15. Vile Kyle

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    Just my opinion as I’m nowhere near nightmare and what I use as I have both.
     
    Vile Kyle, 16 Jan 2019
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  16. Redneck Messiah

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    @Redneck Messiah, thanks for tagging me here. Glad you brought this to my attention.
    I think somebody needs to know what exactly a hit and run speeder is. We are not brawlers. We are precision snipers, focusing on eliminating priority targets. Blast cannons, with fast cooldown, fast projectiles, ease of use, and burst chaining, suit us extremely well.
     
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  17. TheAntiSnipe

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    .

    It's all about what you can make the blast cannon do. A true hit-and-run will find excannons to be better, however he'll be able to accomplish similar results with the blast cannon anyway.

    You should review your playstyle and overall build, we'll be happy to help.
     
    TheAntiSnipe, 16 Jan 2019
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  18. Agile Vanguard

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    Usually hit and run speeders don't attack more than 1 enemy at once. Ex cannon also isn't as good in projectile speed and cooldown. However in a duel, blast cannon should perform nearly identically to a explosive cannon.

    Plus you can't pair explosive with another 2 slot item.
     
    Agile Vanguard, 16 Jan 2019
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  19. Ash KOT

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    As you can see from the above replies they are VERY close in performance.
    Blast is more versatile with lower cooldown and faster projectiles, plus as a one slot item it can be used on other boats too (enfo etc).
    Based on pure damage then the explosive looks better on paper, but you need to hit your shots.
    I would honestly see what duplicates come your way and start there.
    My first epic level 50 item was my blast cannon, and I now have 35 million damage with it and it goes on EVERY ship I play with.
    I was stuck with an epic 20 explosive for an age, but got 2 dupes in the last week so its now at epic level 40.
    Still prefer the blast right now :)
     
    Ash KOT, 16 Jan 2019
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  20. Vile Kyle

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    My bad I guess I’m just jaded as my first legendary was x cannon and quickly got second legendary from weapon accomplishments. Also during that time I got epic x cannon to lvl 50. Blast is a great weapon it just doesn’t hit as hard for me.
     
    Vile Kyle, 16 Jan 2019
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