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Matchmaking Curiosity (again)

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by ViscountSniffit, 23 Jun 2018.

  1. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    I don’t understand why this ship, mk4 with 7.5k hp, and t5 rare weapons, is getting matched against mk3s and mk4s. 6A04A4E9-FDB8-4745-A116-D2C23835F38B.png

    Yet when I run this ship, mk3 with 5.9k hp, and only a single t5 Rare, I’m consistently matched against mk5s? 64CB1A12-ABFB-4A69-8824-81593D999F0C.png

    Why am I being given much harder matches, than someone with a higher captain level, more hp, and a better ship and items?
     
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  2. S2C

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    I can't actually play the new event because for some reason my normal setup that i used to use in previous events is now considered "unusual" so i get paired against mk7's. How is mine unusual when i see ships intentionally lowering their gear score like the ones in their example getting by just fine?

    This is exactly what i use in the normal mode and what i have used in previous events so whatever addition/change they made to the formula has pretty much booted me from the event this time.

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  3. wreck your day

    wreck your day Well-Known Member

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    Happened to me too...
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    Why is the top enemy allowed to have roughly the same gear strength as the rest, while I get matched with players with significantly stronger gear?
     
  4. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    EventMatchmaker(tm) only worries about balancing Gear Score on both sides, further tweaked by a power rating (training?)... the MK or Gear Score variance between participants is all over the board... for better or worse.

    I'm actually surprised to see either of you getting fair matches. When I jump in an MK2 I'm matched with MK6-MK7. That's fair, right?
     
  5. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    Even games in my regular boat are suspect.

    Here’s one of me with Banderas... Count the Rare items in that game, see if you can spot who doesn’t belong. :rolleyes:
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  6. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Take off your epic perks and you'll get setup against mk2s and 3s
     
  7. S2C

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    I wish i had enough pearls lying around to not care about throwing away 100+ just to take off perks =/
     
  8. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    You can get them from raffle. It's worth the nonstop 10 coin wins...
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  9. SeaNavy

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    Once I was playing my normal set up and I was the only mk5 amongst mk4s. It was easy for me, but we still lost because my teammates had lower gearscore than opponents thanks to my higher gearscore.
     
  10. StrictSalmon307

    StrictSalmon307 Well-Known Member

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  11. Jamesnyc

    Jamesnyc Active Member

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    Duh, there cheating and its allowed.
    Us regular players have to deal with it until we get feed up and delete the app
     
  12. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    Matchmaking is far more complex than what you have said. It accounts for underleveled items, ships, and missing items. They are continuing to improve it to make it foolproof.
     
  13. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    No matter which boat I use, I'm usually paired with players with GS from 8k to 11k, I think it's pretty balanced by gear (when we talk about skill, it's just a crazy lottery :eek:)
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  14. ChickenSurprise

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    Dunno what happened but this is what I used. Is training taken into account? Screenshot_20180623-194557.jpg
     
  15. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    Atleast you got to be in a battle with him.
    I dont meet anyone that well-known:)
     
  16. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    Yeah taking off perks help but I really dont want to spend a lot pearls taking off perks. Even 200 pearls is too much as I would put them back on in the time between events then have to use another 200 pearls for the next event.
     
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  17. Joey who

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    Why another 200 pearls after the event? Only taking them off costs pearls. Not putting them on
     
  18. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    I meant for the next event:rolleyes:
     
  19. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    I don't doubt that. IMO, the solution is to incorporate all that extra complexity into Gear Score to make Gear Score itself more accurate, then matchmaking becomes less complex.
     
  20. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    Yes! I’ve been campaigning hard on a chat with Miika that they should remove the gear score shown and show us our exact power that incorporates all of that stuff they deem to be important. This would help everybody know what items they are/aren’t allowed to take into battle.
     

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