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When will the Nightmare Reset issue be addressed?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by envylife, 20 Jun 2018.

  1. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    Neither Barcelona and Malaga or Golden State Warriors and Atlanta Hawks. But you need everyone to make a competition.
     
  2. Help I Cant Swim

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    I think the biggest difference is you only have a set number of games you play in those leagues. In BB, you can play "infinite" games and can thus increase your "ranking" drastically. Sports would only compare to BB if you made them play infinite games.
     
  3. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    So you are proposing everyone gets reset to infamy zero every 2 weeks? That's hardly enough time for everyone to get back to their real infamy before getting reset again.

    I would be OK with this under the condition that everyone's items and ships are the same. However, Battle Bay is not that game.
     
  4. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    Hell no. I'm saying it is healthy to have a reset. Maybe it should be with 5k or or more, but it would be boring without it.
     
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  5. envylife

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    That would be an improvement... that way the trickle-down effect would be limited to Nightmare players, most of which have maxed out weapons, unlike Ace. Make it happen!
     
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  6. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    Actually, look at this very old answer from Miika, when Kitterini pointed out that the infamy reset at 3500 infamy points was a problem
    It seems to be something devs think about and they will do something about it when they think it'll bring more solution than new problems. Just my opinion, I don't know anything about how to balance a game :p (sometimes I think I don't even know how to play it :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:)
     
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  7. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Was the reset 3500 at one point?
     
  8. Rainbow Warrior

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    Yep
     
  9. Help I Cant Swim

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    And they should probably move it up again
     
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  10. envylife

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    Yup... that was why I asked... it's time, and I'm not sure 4500 is good enough... 5000 makes more sense at this point.
     
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  11. Help I Cant Swim

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    Maybe all of the above. Reset every player above 4k to the previous increment of 500.
     
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  12. Shadow Moon!

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    You know what will happy then. Players like me and so many others who are in ace league for eternity will get to 4k mark. And new clutter will form from 4k to 4.5k or 5k whichever they make the reset point.
     
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  13. envylife

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    500 isn't enough. Being in Ace I frequently shed 500+ infamy in a 24 hour period after the reset because my matches get filled with lower level Nightmare castoffs who have also shed 500+ infamy and their 2500 higher Gear Score makes it challenging.
     
  14. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    I think infamy should reset to around 4800-5000. People who can get there have max most of their epic items already. The only differences are skills and how much better your items are from max epic.
     
  15. Shadow Moon!

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    The bay grude event proved that having better gear can overcome lack of skill. No matter how skilled you are and no matter how hard you can carry your team if you don't have weapons that can dish out significant damage you never gonna stand a chance. At least in 1v1.
     
  16. d_p air

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    Of course, BB is not a skill based game.
     
  17. Miathan

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    Sigh, yes it is. Let me quote my past self here:
     
  18. Miathan

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    Well yeah, but 1v1 is a much simpler situation than 5v5, so there are much fewer other factors besides gear. So of course, in 1v1 gear matters a lot.
     
  19. envylife

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    Yes I do think this is the appropriate range... that reset range will result in a push-down affecting only Nightmare players and leave Ace I out of it. @Devs what say you?
     
  20. BattleRascal

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    Some people are just really BAD. I think we've seen it all, a 5 weapon slot shooter who only cycles through 1 or 2 items, and shooters who only fire once every 30 seconds. We've seen some crazy stuff spectating peoples play styles after our death.
    Lets say for instance that SKILL was something that had a measurement as well(purely judgemental) of 1 to 100
    A person with level 10 skill, it doesn't matter what their gear score is, will be really bad and those are the guys with MK6's and 8000 gear scores at sub 1000 infamy.
    A team of guys with level 50 skill and 10,000 gear scores would likely easily beat a team of people with level 75 skill and 6,000 gear scores. Skill alone is not enough to overcome that much difference in weapon strength if the higher powered players at least have reasonable skill.
    Skill and weapon power are both factors in ones infamy and there might never be a conclusive answer as to which is more important.
    My personal belief is thatthat Strength(Gear Score) accounts for about 60% of your infamy. Skill accounts for 40% of infamy.
     
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