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I think healing should be tweaked

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by NoTtIaN, 9 May 2018.

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Should Fixers be nerfed? (read post first)

  1. Make heal -10% efficient

    13.6%
  2. Make heal -5% efficient

    9.1%
  3. make heal 5% more efficient

    27.3%
  4. make heal 10% more efficient

    50.0%
  5. Make speeders better

    31.8%
  6. dont make speeder better

    27.3%
  7. Make fixer accelerate slower

    4.5%
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  1. NoTtIaN

    NoTtIaN Well-Known Member

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    so, i think that upgrades in a fixer is too huge, and so i think that healing items should begin stronger, but the upgrades should give less
    (mostly the bolt and box)
    These are just my opinion you can judge me
    Sometimes, an mk6 fixer with 2x pulse, and 1 bolt can heal around 30 000 per match, (their average without putting much effort)
    And with a flare and blast cannon, they can do around 5+k damage.
    which = 35 000 hp damage/heal just by trying regularly (that means without tryharding)
    And it's nearly impossible for speeders to do that much (even if they ReAlLy try!)
    So i say, make speeders great again!!
    serously, nerf the bolt by 10%
    Because its so easy to heal a friendly ship and its super hard to hit an enemy ship (because there far and they are trying to dodge UR attacks)
    c'mon seriously! it's so easy to heal teammates and its not easy hitting enemy ship. I think fixers need nerffff!!!!
     
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  2. Help I Cant Swim

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  3. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    Buff duct tape and then u wont see people getting healed. That would be epic for u as there wont be that high of a damage/heal.
     
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  4. Help I Cant Swim

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  5. Craigjnoble

    Craigjnoble Well-Known Member

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    Just a few comments from my point of view as a fixer.

    Have you ever played a fixer?
    It’s not that easy to heal team mates when they vanish to the 4 corners of the map.
    Hitting a speeder or enforcer with a bolt is a nightmare. You have to remember that dodging shots also makes you unpredictable for landing a bolt shot. And speeders never hang about for the second pulse.

    I don’t think it needs nerfed. We are first target and normally speeders/enforcers dinner or the charge target for defenders.

    From your poll a fixers acceleration (and turning circle) is pretty poor anyway. It’s like trying to drag race an oil tanker. Plus the deceleration is just as bad. If anything it could do with a little boost

    As it’s been said before people start on the nerf a boat bandwagon, try playing 100 matches or so and get a feel for the role. It may change your perspective. I have tried played a few different ships after thinking that looks easy. My enforcer kept doing circles and running in to wall, my defender basically tickled an unfriendly fixer before it melted. There is a lot of skill required to be good at each boat. You always remember the good ones that make it look easy and forget the bad players.

    And if damage was such a big deal, play a shooter. A speeder contributes so much more to a battle than just damage. They can scout, pop in to assassinate, distract the team, etc.

    But I agree make speeders great again and to mark such a momentous occasion they should double in size to show how great they are. This also solves part of the issue of it being hard to hit a ship too!!
     
  6. NoTtIaN

    NoTtIaN Well-Known Member

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    fine, how about make the cooldown increased by about 1 second, or have a minor nerf.
    Annd as a fixer, it's your job to follow teammates and practice healing moving ships.
    It's the experience, rovio is not gonna do it for you?
     
  7. Rokstrmahesh

    Rokstrmahesh Active Member

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    Try surviving with those items while every unfriendly attacks you since match start, playing fixer is not easy as you think.
     
  8. Rainbow Warrior

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    Nah, fixers look fine to me
     
  9. Rokstrmahesh

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    Already repair bolt cool down is so higher than pulse, if we use cooldown perks rare bolt becomes useless, If you think fixer is easy and are over powered try playing with it, you'll understand the frustration to survive and heal your team mates, also doing your personal quests and guild quests which are super hard.
     
  10. SupremeCalamitas

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    Fixer needs nerf. Speeder need buff.
     
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  11. Rokstrmahesh

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    Yea need Another yellow slot for speeder so they can fly off other boats
     
  12. TheAntiSnipe

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    No such weak buffs!

    Remove speed cap!
     
  13. Kitterini

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    Yes! Lets bring speeder back to being the best boat, one boat to rule them all. Dominating all of 2017 clearly wasnt long enough. Infact lets just remove all other classes.

    & whilst we are at it lets nerf a boat that continues to be mediocre - God forbid we ever see more than 20% Fixers near the top of the charts!
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    These forums never fails to deliver :) For the first time, atleast since they absurd Repair Pulse nerf, Fixers are a viable option for players that care about their infamy (not talking little league yatching here). Do notice the word viable, its by no means the top dog. By its close enough, and of course the forums degenerate into 'must nerf'. Oh well, hating on healing classes isnt a new concept in multiplayer gaming.

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    Could we finally have a Nightmare section on this forum? Then the masters players can post their nonsense in a place that doesnt clutter a space that could hold interesting information. I'd much rather read and learn from people better than me, but some many top players only post a few times and then disappear again, no wonder why.
     
  14. wreck your day

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    How are fixers op? And I think speeder is fine too. What really needs a buff is the poor old defender (at my league at least). Too few defenders around; even less of the decent ones!
     
  15. Craigjnoble

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    I still don’t think it needs nerfed.
    My comment was mearly pointing out how do you expect to follow team mates when they all go in different directions. You have to make decisions on who to follow, who to keep alive and who to let die. Watching all directions to keep an eye on health bars while keeping an eye out for speeders and torps/mines. It’s not as easy as you think.
    I have enough practice to hit moving ships with my bolt. My issue is from half way across the map I cannot tell if your going to suddenly turn left/ right or hit nitro.
    In my eyes your argument for a nerf is invalid.
    Maybe once you come up here and start playing with the big boys you will realise the fixers aren’t OP and there are worse things to deal with than a fixer. Like the double bubble enforcer that’s looking hungry!!
    As you said it’s the experience, not all experiences are enjoyable though.
     
  16. Rokstrmahesh

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    I know your pain :D:mad:
     
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  17. TheAntiSnipe

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    I agree. Even in Ace 2-1, an out of position fixer is 5-6 seconds away from death. As an enforcer, even at mk5, I go out there and defend the fixer, going "Help {fixer}!". If the fixer is smart, he/she retreats using me as cover.

    Point I'm trying to make is, fixers are highly team dependent. No need to cripple them further. Heck, if I was a fixer, I'd have quit already. You heal everyone, are everyone's target, are cussed at by everyone if you lose, AND get nerfed every other update? Nope. 4 other ships can be played, I'll play them.
     
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  18. "har"Smash until the end

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    Fixer is always NOT as easy as you think.just a few days ago my infamy dropped for nearly 800 by using fixer.Its actually hard for a fixer to survive and heal those suicide SHOOTERS.
    Just except the repair bolt,it’s too annoying lol,but actually nerfs are not the best way to solve the problem :pI’m pretty sure that many people will get angry if bolt is nerfed.
    Buff repair box plz :D
     
  19. NoTtIaN

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    to make defender better, please press 1....
    Ok, you done? good.
    Makethehitbox-20%andmakeallshipsincreasedhpby10%andleavetheshieldsthesame,thisway,defenderrelieslessonshields,andalsomakedefendersincreasedALLagilityby10-15%
    and read my post about ship attributes, its interesting
     
  20. wreck your day

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    Well I don't play defender so I wouldn't know what needs to be tweaked, but I don't think the hitbox should be smaller. Defender-style ships even in other games generally tend to be big and clumsy so defender players should be ready for that when they play. Furthermore it wouldn't be nice if you hit the edge of a defender but he didn't get damaged... (for fixers too) The best thing to do is ask the defenders what they think makes their ship so unpopular since they know the ship best!

    Yes please! Repair box is too underused and many mk5 fixers I see heavily rely on bolts (double bolt or even triple bolt sometimes). Maybe increase the time it takes before they expire? Seems like they disappear rather quickly now; one moment you see them and in the next they are gone.
    aaand... because I have 4 epic ones :p
     
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