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50% win rate happens when you're at the appropriate Infamy

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Spinners71, 19 Mar 2018.

  1. Spinners71

    Spinners71 Well-Known Member

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    Can we all agree to make the following language change:

    Instead of saying something like "This game forces you to be at 50%..."
    It would be more accurate to say "This game allows you to be at 50%..."

    It's not good when someone is perpetually under-ranked and wins all their games...
    It's not good when someone is perpetually over-ranked and loses all their games...

    Matchmaking helps you find your appropriate rank, so your games are "fair" and so you (and everyone else who is properly ranked) can win a "fair" (50%) amount.
     
  2. Miathan

    Miathan Well-Known Member

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    Honestly, I've only ever seen "force" / "forces" used by people who didn't understand infamy and matchmaking. You are correct.
     
  3. Stelmo

    Stelmo Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen anybody whinging about being forced to a 50% win rate for some time now, it's about time somebody dredged it up..
     
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  4. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    That's a great thread! :D
     
  5. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    I've been a big proponent that the matchmaking is actually working well in Battle Bay for a long time...

    The only current issue that I've seen with it is the inclusion of ship Mk making the jump from Mk5 to Mk6 extremely difficult. I just went to Mk6 on my Enforcer and I didn't believe anyone when they said you'd lose infamy. I have actually gained infamy solely because my gear was being built for Mk6 (traded T3 epic bandage for T4 epic big shield), but I can definitely tell that the matchmaking has put me in harder games because I'm weighed more heavily now. I'm not sure if I like the inclusion of ship Mk in the matchmaking or not. I understand why it would be used, but if infamy is properly calculated then it seems like a superfluous and artificial addition that actually punishes ship upgrading.

    Any-who... I do agree with your OP. Having a matchmaking that brings everybody to 50% should be the ultimate goal of any multiplayer game.
     
  6. Spinners71

    Spinners71 Well-Known Member

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    The reason they included ship-level in the matchmaking was to help prevent matches where mk1-2 has to fight against mk4-5.
    But, it's just not the right tool to solve the issue. It's like trying to use a long-sword to perform surgery.

    A far more appropriate solution (imo) would have been the infamy floors, where each mk level cannot fall below a certain Infamy:
    - mk 1 = no floor
    - mk 2 = no floor
    - mk 3 = 250
    - mk 4 = 650
    - mk 5 = 1100
    - mk 6 = 1600
    (for more on this, see: https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/steep-fall-in-infamy.17219/page-2#post-108768)
     
  7. CaffeinatedChris

    CaffeinatedChris MVP

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    If you get high enough as a Mk1-2, you'll still face Mk5s. I'm almost exclusively fighting them on my mini account. Even a rare Mk6 now and again.
     
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  8. Spinners71

    Spinners71 Well-Known Member

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    I don't necessarily see that as a problem though, because compared to most mk2's, you're probably very high on the skill curve. What these floors should hopefully prevent is having mk4-6 from being able to fall low enough to mingle with "average" or new players splashing around in mk1-3.
     
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  9. fr4nk1yn

    fr4nk1yn Well-Known Member

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    All fine and dandy but it tends to see saw certain people, like me on occasion.
     
  10. Miathan

    Miathan Well-Known Member

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    Since when is this included? Are you sure about this?
     
  11. Ian

    Ian Well-Known Member

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    It's funny when you see posts from people pointing to everyone's 50% winrate as evidence that "rovio is rigging matches for you to lose!". Is it that hard to understand how infamy works xD
     
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  12. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    Yeah current mm takes ships mk in account too in addition to Infamy.
    PS: I was wondering how long will it take you to hit forums ;)
    Welcome back
     
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  13. AVID

    AVID Well-Known Member

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    YOUR WINS AND LOOS RATIO ALWAYS BTWN 50 TO 55%
     
  14. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Judging by these forums it is very hard to understand yes :)
     

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