DevReply What are the odds of pulling pieces/weapons of different rarities from crates and scrapping?

@Mikka has told you repeatedly that all chances are exactly the same across each rarity. And seeing he's a developer publicly stating that information, I'd say that counts as disclosure to these odds.

But this is a waste of time, becuase nothing will satisfy you.

 

Its Time to put down your weapons bro..
They won't do anything unfair since Truth always comes out sooner or later. And they be proven unfair then it will not only be end of bb but all of rovio's games. Its too big a risk for them.

 

"But once more: All items have always equal weight from the boxes. There is never any kind of manipulation that odds would be reduced for items which players want." -Mikka, from your recently locked post.

 

They are legally obligated as per apples guidelines to disclose the specific information regarding the odds. If they do not disclose this information, all apple customers purchasing IAPs have full grounds to charge a refund request which will almost 100% go through. I would like to add on that although the Rovio Entertainment EULA is very powerful, any conflict with the app store or Google play store policies will have the EULA be superceded.

Please disclose the exact numbers for obtaining items for the premium, star crate, free crate etc.

For example:

Premium chest:
Rare 95%
Epic 5%
Epic piece 99.9%
Leg piece 0.01%

 

I think the odds will be something like this,
Something you need : 1%
Something you don't need : 99%

How else they're gonna sell those ultra high "1,6X VALUE" evolution packs. Lol.

plz dun ban me im just kiddin.

 

They don’t want to give us the exact code on anything so hacking/finding an exploitable loophole wouldn’t happen. At least that’s what I think

 

What he means is the odds of pulling an item based on rarity i.e odds of pulling an epic tesla bolt from a premium chest which is different from pulling a rare tesla bolt from the premium chest (much lower). Stats for pulling same items of different rarity are different which is what he wants to know which is completely different from what miika said.
Miika said the odds of pulling different items of "same rarity" from a chest are same which is completely true but does not answer the questions at all.

 

@Miika I would also like to know the chances of perks, item pieces and item based on rarity appearing on the first board of the raffle normal and legendary board.
For ex - chances of rudder perk as compared to chances of a shield health perk appearing on first board of normal raffle.

 

I also think they should share this information.

Given that there is already a worldwide discussion on the ethics of loot boxes, and that it might become a legal requirement (if it isn’t already), I think it would be sensible to just get ahead of the issue and be as open and transparent as possible.

People should always be able to make an informed decision about how much they might need to spend to get X. If you withhold that information, then they are unable to make an informed decision, and if they are unable to make and informed decision, then it opens the door to allegations that you are diliberatly taking advantage of them.

I think Rovio ought to distance themselves from that, and ensure that everyone here spending, is doing so under thier own (we’ll informed) volition.

 

As the guideline was recently enacted, it is only a matter of time and in Rovio's best interest to adhere and disclose the respective information. However, we have to understand that changes take time and that complaining is not going to make things come any faster. In order to keep Battle Bay in the app store and not jeopardize the apps reputation, they will eventually have to follow such guidelines. Let's all be patient and wait for such a Grace period to pass and see what the company decides to do.

 

Let's be honest here, we all know the answer. From devs perspective, to disclose the odds of getting specific item from boxes is a really bad business decision. It would discourage potential buyers from spending their money when they see the odds of getting their desired item as low as 1.5% or even lower than that.
So I don't see that will happen anytime soon, especially when there's enough american marauders and banderas out there willing to pump thousands of dollars to be able to have virtual items that are stronger than ours, the non paying plebs.
This kind of shitty business practices should be illegal IMO, some US lawmakers even describe loot boxes as “predatory" to human psychology, because their randomized nature seems to be built around the same reward structures that make gambling addictive.

 

Not only are your chances low, rovio is extremely stingy with items for F2P players. We don't even get the few epic crates which we earned for leveling up and most exp is gained through training rather than actually playing the game. To make things worse all gear obtained through the game is completely random, unless you pull out your wallet, making it completely unfair to those who have no money. Don't give me those garbage excuses of battle bay being a "casual game". If that were true, we wouldn't have leaderboards, rankings, seasons and tournaments. Stick fight is a casual game

 

I don't understand why they should reveal the odds of receiving epic item in this case. It says pretty clearly "guaranteed RARE item" and in the details it says "OR BETTER". In my opinion the line "OR BETTER" doesn't mean it's really marketed in a way that it would make the customer want to buy it just to get epics. It's simply a random bonus and that's just how it's marketed.