Is this game doomed ?

After months spent on this game, i came to the point where there's absolutely no way to enjoy playing. Here's why :

1- xp/upgrades : It litterally feels like a chore to progress, grinding everything isn't fun.
2- Ship unbalance : wondering why there's so many shooters compared to other ships ? It feels balanced at mk 3, after that (mk4 and so on) it's just horrible. Four weapons ? Five weapons ?! Other ships have to wait until mk5 to get an extra weapon slot. Which, coupled with the actual matchmaking, makes the game experience terrible.
3- The matchmaking : the big issue. A lot of people already talked about this here, in game, everywhere : it's bad.
4- The player pool : i don't want to call names or be disrespectful against others but please make an tactical tutorial which is mandatory. This game relies way too much on team work, so please try to educate the players on that matter.

I've been lucky to find this game and been enjoying it until recently, being against mk5 all the way down from 1850+ to 1300ish as an mk4 (defender/enforcer) is just not fun and i'm not the only player feeling this way.
Battle Bay is a great game, with a lot of potential but you, developpers, have to fix it asap otherwise it will end like a lot of games with great potential ended (wildstar comes to my mind) : dead within two years.

 

Buddy.....shooter gets much weps slot but u can defeat them by other ships bcz all ship's have an different ability.......and the developers r trying to improve the matchmaking system
The developers can't do anything to make people follow the team bcz they r free to play the game as they want so it's not their prob.
If u think tht they should make the upgrades and XP easier thn it will not be as fun bcz u will progress fastly and there is no fun if u reach the max level easily bcz after doing hard work the happiness is doubled

Sorry if I wrote something wrong........

Thankfully
Cryix

 

M5's appear all the way down to 0 infamy nowadays to my knowledge. They are commonplace at 500 infamy. I routinely fought them as a M2, M3, and now M4. I agree with you.

Your point about shooters being balanced early I agree with. But they don't get better. Rather, they get worse until much later when they improve somewhat. Sure, they mount lots of gun tubes, but for what? Really, they are nothing more than mortar platforms until serious levels of turbo can be achieved. There's a reason I'm ditching my M4 shooter and working up a speeder. I still like my M4... sort of... but I can see the writing on the wall.

Matchmaking is awful. That is complicated by the fact that everything seems to change dramatically in power over time. Speeders are basically little yellow graves at M4 and below. At M6 they are monsters. The same can be said of enforcers. So any matchmaking rules they wrote would need to look at captain level as part of the equation. That's complicated by the quests which encourage matchmaking disaster. Then, of course, there are the tankers (those M5's at 200 infamy) out grinding for whatever they're grinding for.

Insofar as teamwork, everyone likes to complain about that. I'm slowly learning strategies to help the team to play like one. I suspect the biggest problem with teamwork in this game is the fact that you may want to win a given match but I probably don't care. Winning is definitely a mixed blessing in Battle Bay. You gain gold, sugar and pearls but it costs you in terms of infamy gain.

 

@Cryix
The only way to defeat a shooter is to shoot at it (like every ship in this game) so when you're only facing mk4-5 shooters as a mk 4 defender, well.. you're screwed. The game has been shaped around the shooter, even the rng tends to tell you to play shooter (more red items so more chance to get one randomly).

 

The only big problem I found in early game is that u have to wait a lot of time to buy blue and green parts from shop and sometimes blue parts never come (at the beginning). U reach the max of sugar and gold soon but cant spend it coz u dont have parts available to buy and upgrade

 

Well, enjoy these sweet times when ressources aren't missing. You will soon face that horrendous grinding i'm talking about.

 

Eemm. Nope,

Didnt have that kind of troubles my friend.

 

I don’t think any ship should have more than 3 weapons. When I’ve had the opportunity to fight against Defenders 1 vs 1, I really notice how much more strategic the game gets.

Like there is a moment when their gun is pointed at me, but they aren’t firing. And I’m like “Ahah! This must be what it’s like to fight against ships that actually need to wait for thier weapons to cool down!”.

 

But on even levels a shooter would win because of their fire power and better mobility

 

Don't play mk4 defender. Just don't. It's the worst ship until mk6. Devs have neglected it since good old P0rthos days. When I reached level 30 four months ago, I upgraded shooter before Defender because it's not good without at least level 40 rares. If you're playing with lower level items, just slap them on shooter and go spamming.

Don't touch defender with lower level gear. You're gonna have very bad time. Come back to defender when you're mk6 with good gear. Or not since mk6 shooter will get you 9-10k HP with loads more weapons to spam.

 

Yes this game is doomed. You can't tell me this guy doesn't put in the work, or as rovio would like to say "needs to get better". I'm sick and tired of rovios system. I've had 3 members recently quit and uninstall and the number of disgruntled members is on the rise. Rovio, you are killing my once great clan. Your money grab will only last so long, before you run off all the great ftp people. Then, do you really think people will keep spending so much money just to be beat by someone with so much more money? Enjoy it while it lasts right?

 

I think I've heard this question in every single game I've played all the time. So I'm going to go with "probably not"

What is true in my mind is that the game is "doomed" as a competitive platform. I think it makes a fine casual game. I can't really take it seriously as a powergamer given the hash that is the current infamy system and the frequently nonsensical matchmaking -- "OK, the other team got 3 M5 shooters, a M4 fixer, and <whatever>. We got all M4 shooters and a M2 enfo. Right........" In that equation the other team got the equivalent of a 6th boat on their team and a fixer. How can you take that seriously in any competitive sense?

 

I thought that at one point until I saw a dual bandage, dual std cannon enforcer just go ahead and take it in the face as he closed and then rip the enemy shooter apart. Now I've decided that if one knows what a defender is for and builds the boat that way then life isn't so hard. (all appropriate to lower infamies.... 1100-ish as I remember).

 

It's funny how everyone complains about the shooter and all that. In almost every aspect except weapons slots, it a pretty cruddy boat in my opinion. The turret agility of a mark 5 is pretty bad. The speed is mediocre. Ship agility is terrible. And people complain, "shooters have too much hp", well they need that in order to freaking survive. Being the second least mobile ship, and with no yellow items to aid them, of course they're gonna need that hp and defense. Shooters and defenders are very difficult to maneuver compared to other boats. Any well led shot will hit 80% of the time (if you count lag).

However, I do find a mark 5 shooter fighting at mark 2 infamy as something dishonorable.

 

Have a shooter and it sucks. Speeder have more health than me. Enforcer have more movility, speed and the same amount of health. Defender is a monster. Speeder and enforcer are more fun to play with