Shield Perk or Hitpoints Perk Better!?

Shield Perk or Hitpoints Perk Better!?
i have shield perk epic value: 9
and hitpoints perk epic value: 150
i dont know what's good, and 9 here => 9% or 9 hitpoints only?
my bad english sorry!

 

9 here => 9% or 9 hitpoints only?

 

He is right! Rather than explaining entire mechanism why Hit point perk is better,I will just tell you to blindly install HP perks.shield Point to defense perk is severly underpowered compared to HIT POINTS

 

ok! so crazy developer or crazy admin?
i buyed with more than 1.4m gold with 9 hitpoints only?
they got my money easy! huh

 

Its not 9 hitpoint,Its point to defense.Meaning -9 damage from each projectile.Good against carronade where there is 9 less damage from 7 projectiles,Hence 63 less damage to your ships.Can be useful against missiles,Other than that its useless against all single projectile weapons.

On the other had the 150 Hit point perks has more value than it is stated,It will be multiplied by your Ship hp gain talent and big/Std shield hp gain talent.So,Just install HP perks,Even rare HP perk can better than epic point to defense

 

ok thanks pro! damm, i selled alls hitpoints perk before @@, using shooter only

 

https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/difference-between-defense-and-hitpoints.14894/#post-79404

The correct math is in this thread

 

Actually, it is not as bad as you think. If the health gives 100 hitpoints, and the shield is 9 defence, if you get hit 12 times, you will save yourself 108 damage, basically the same as adding 108 hitpoints Of course, getting hit 12 times means death, unless you have a fixer, where defence perks would be better as you could probably get hit over 20 times, saving you 180 damage. But most of the time go hitpoints

 

If by health you Mean 100HP perk,Then will have to say it has more value than the stated 100HP in perk.Considering you have maxed out your training,100*2.08=208HP from that perk.Heres how it counts,So well! you will have to hit around 23 times To justify that.So,That was the comparison of Rare HP [+100] perk TO Epic[+9] point to defense.

So,Even that Rare HP perk is better than Epic point to defense.Replace 100 with 150 (150*2.08) for epic-epic comparison the difference is even bigger...

I will also save you and myself the pain of how i came up with that equation

 

Whoops forgot it was epic defence vs rare health. Anyway, the hitpoint perks do not increase with crew training I'm pretty sure it remains 100 or 200 outright, as it is not a percentage buff.

 

The hp of a hp perks will get buff from:
1) the shield hp % buff talents, and
2) the hp % buff talents of your ship.

Therefore a 100hp shield hp perk could end up adding 140-180hp to your ship. Try removing one of your hp perks from your shield to see how much hp you lose and you will understand this

 

Hmm... Really? Would you mind showing me through photos? Lol I can't test it out myself, I'm too poor to spend the 10 pearl fine for taking off rare perks. Only have 6

 

Let’s start with calculating Shield HP:

My big shield total hp is 1722. The calculation is as below:
(730+50+450)*1.4=1722
Add up all the base numbers before multiply it with the % buff. So my total epic perks 450hp is buffed 40%, giving me 630hp.


Now let’s calculate ship HP:

(1750+375+1722)*1.16=4462

Same as shield hp, you first add up all the base numbers before multiply it with % buff. Note that the hp perks of my shield (buffed once) is now being buffed for the second time with 16% buff. So the total hp from my epic perks isn’t only 450, but 730. They are being buffed by both shield and ship hp % crew talents.

Hope this helps

 

Oh I do see, the hp buff is added, then multiplied. Kinda strange, they should make it more clear in the description of the buffs.

 

Nicely done

 

Thanks guys! I moved some training from ships to hitpoints as touched on. I lost 28 on my mk5 enforcer but went from 993 on the standard shield to 1083. Every bit counts in battle.

 

Is it still true that epic shield perk only give -9 hp point for each damage compare to epic hp perk that add 150 hp point?
What is ratio between 1 dmg and hp?

 

Yea it's true, for a while I was running 3 epic defense perks on my big shield and the difference was literally unnoticeable. Defense only really makes a difference once you approach 100 (the max) and with the amount of perks required, it's still not worth it compared to the thousands of hp you could be getting from hp perks instead.