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Monthly player nerf

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Olibooger, 18 Dec 2017.

  1. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Yea, I find that this happens too. But it's mostly because we share times of operation. For example, Be Boozled are a great guild. Even when questing, the members are beasts. And they're mostly in Ace. It's easy to walk into one of their guildwars as an Indian, since they're on ALL the time. Love fighting with them, HATE going against them.
     
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  2. w@x

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    Take note of your win/lose ratio when you are going on winning or losing streaks. Are you well above 50% games won? Then MM will put you against harder teams and you will be the big tough guy on your team. The closer you are to 50% win/lose the closer you are to fair MM.
     
  3. Olibooger

    Olibooger Active Member

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    I just took note of that. The ratio is right about 50/50
     
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    Then you are due for a good run!
     
  5. Olibooger

    Olibooger Active Member

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    Up to 900 infamy loss. Sucks because I went above 4k so now I have a month of being in nightmare no matter what.
     
  6. xxxBISMARCKxxx

    xxxBISMARCKxxx Well-Known Member

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    So you're saying you have a monthly cycle where everything seems wrong and you get in a really bad mood?
     
  7. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    LMAO! :D

    Next time it happens, try snuggling up on the sofa with a hot water bottle, and watching Titanic.
     
  8. Olibooger

    Olibooger Active Member

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    haha, thats funny. never thought of that. next time it happens ill do what i always do for three days. itch n moan until things are back to "normal"
     
  9. xxxBISMARCKxxx

    xxxBISMARCKxxx Well-Known Member

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    heheheh... couldn't resist.

    But let me be clear that in no way do I think what you're saying isn't legit. Rovio absolutely tries to send you on streaks in this game and the only people who deny it are shills.

    Take my last 30 games, for example. I've been on one of those 'down' streaks and in my last 30 there are zero times where I had a fixer on my team and the other team didn't. But 10 times where the other team had one and I didn't. It's not a coincidence, it's simple observation and math. I have known this since like month 2 when I'd been winning a lot in low levels because most people are bad and they sent me on a streak of 30 games with no fixer... this is before the nerf and they were definitely more than 20% of the boats out there. Other people would complain about the same thing too.

    It's just their shit they do to try to get you to spend on the game, ignore it, these people think that nobody can do math or will be fooled by some shill spouting off like they have a degree in neuroscience about how it's all in your head lol. If you want you can pair up with a fixer but I personally don't see that it matters in the big picture and is actually more of a crutch. Just another company in life always trying to get its hand deeper in your pocket, last week I had these people trying to sell me some timeshare thing for like 30 grand and it was all about trying to play on my ego, I view Rovio's infamy manipulation streak shenanigans as along those same lines.
     
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  10. Miika

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    And I can absolutely make an official statement as the lead of Battle Bay that it does no such thing. In fact it actually tries to break losing streaks by placing losing players on the different sides so that either one would be forced to win.

    What we can’t affect is players just playing so extremely badly that they constantly cause their team to lose. Or cure cognitive bias towards people looking for blame in everything else than themselves.
     
  11. vis1234567899

    vis1234567899 Well-Known Member

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    no as u fail in one game u would try to do much better in the next but u get so tensed u start messing up and this is vicious cycle so u keep on dropping Take a break then come back.
     
  12. Olibooger

    Olibooger Active Member

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    Whatever the case. Days of losses creates a very negative vibe. Generally myself and others express the continuous struggle in guild chat.
    If it is an algorthm issue, it's known. If it is a mental thing, probably shouldnt spread the frustration into the guild.
    Once monthly, I am married with several kids. In reality it could literally be a monthly "issue". My wife is prego tho so id assume id be losing ALL month long if it were the case.

    Side note, I can tell when im off. Today I am off and probably wont play as often. It's when im not off tripling the next guys damage, still losing that I know it isnt me and I resort to accusations of pre programmed losses.

    I assure you once taxes drop ill kick out a couple hundred. Mind you im a F2P heavy. A couple hundred is a lot in my book. I hope the 30USD weapon purchase is still available.

    Until then. Fair winds and smooth sailing gents.
     
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  13. xxxBISMARCKxxx

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    So you're admitting that the matchmaking is not free floating. At last we have that.

    Now, I can't truly do the algorithm correctly because I don't know exactly how you've gamed it, but the odds of going 30 games in a row without a fixer is, in a non-tweaked environment, extremely remote. I've played a little less than 9000 matches. The odds of it occurring to me in particular are quite slim. But ok, maybe it will happen to someone and that someone happens to be me. And yet we have other people complain about exactly the same thing. So it's both extremely remote to happen in the first place in a random environment, but it happens to not just me, AND you admit that the matchmaking is tweaked to try to ensure outcomes.

    It seems what's most likely occurred is that your tweaking has had some unintended consequences- giving you credit for being at least wise enough not to make false official statements that could kill your career or expose you to blackmail.

    As for all this poorly veiled nonsense about how if I go on a losing streak it's simply down to my play, lol whatever dude. I've been lurking in Ace 1 for awhile (undergeared thanks to your little RNG casino) and I haven't made big changes to my playstyle. Anyone who has played this game a lot knows that big infamy swings happen. You're just hurting your own credibility with that crap.
     
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  14. vis1234567899

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    that is harsh, and why do u want a dev to be fired, i think u are angry about the random matc hmaking then come in to the thread. when u see the post u are more angry than usual and are starting to be very rude. Also why does matchmaking have to include a fixer and why dont u just fleet with one so u have a fixer all the time.;)
     
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  15. Olibooger

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    Played match with you recently. Excellent play I must say.
     
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  16. xxxBISMARCKxxx

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    I've never called for anyone to be fired. If I did it would be for whoever on the staff decided that they must cram more RNG into this game at EVERY CONCEIVABLE CHANCE they get even though it's pretty universally disliked by the actual players/customers. ($10 for a 1 in 4 chance at an item really? That was about the lowest point I have yet seen Rovio sink to) . That's a business philosophy that should and probably will lead to more than one person being fired. But I haven't even done that yet Your other item I addressed already, go back and read for your answer.
     
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  17. GoreSnorkle

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    What you CAN affect is your insulting policy of turning off our resources... it’s clearly alienating and discouraging a lot of your most loyal players. Besides which, it DOES NOT WORK. Everyone who starts an alt tells me the same thing: at 200 infamy they are battling nothing but MK 5’s... so anyone who wants to be a seal clubber is still doing so unabated, or possibly trapped down there unable to climb back due to your ‘solution’
    I’m sure we will get same response as always. You’re “working on it,” yet the policy remains unabated.
    So, what do you suggest we do once we go 900 under our highest infamy? How do we risk hitting the button again to battle? Or do you think anyone who loses that much no longer deserves to play the game? Are we just supposed to go away?

    Sincerely, “extremely bad.”
     
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  18. Olibooger

    Olibooger Active Member

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    Beyond player infamy, the store seems nerfed. When I got to level training 28, every single time I needed rare or epic parts to upgrade, they were found at least two shop refreshes, or twelve hours later... Nerf? Coincidence? Randomly Generated? I dunno.
    Also the quests, whatever I have more of it offers more of for the reward. Basically it offers what is not needed.
    Random? I dunno. Ill keep playing reguardless but I am certainly fully aware of what is going on.
     
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  19. GoreSnorkle

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    That, plus getting parts two out of every three rolls in guild raffle make it obvious.

    They adjust people’s “luck” up or down, most likely based on if they pay money... considering how every move they make is trying to monetize another aspect of this game. That is the ONLY explanation that makes sense based on the evidence.
     
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  20. xxxBISMARCKxxx

    xxxBISMARCKxxx Well-Known Member

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    Oh noes I got shit streaked all the way down to where my infamy is scraping the level I don't get rewards! But look who comes riding in offering to sell me $100 worth of epic boxes for Christmas... it's Rovio lol!

    It's like I have this weird "cognitive bias" where I am biased towards exact cognition of what they are doing.
     
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