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Nerf sniper!!!

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Zusay, 25 Nov 2017.

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  1. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    Frost torp is dead, lol
     
  2. Eeyore

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    Yup, get frosted and take one from Bunta or YSL LOL
     
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  3. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    Frost was broken when you were typing the message.
     
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    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    Ysl is flare+ec now, bunta has no items equipped. Most of frost users changed combos when the nerf came out
     
  5. Babablacksheep

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    I keep thinking a good way to nerf,because i support both parties

    Heres Another way to nerf sniper

    1) Scaling the damage up,Midway between Blast and standard canon ( something if canon T5 does 400 damage;Bc does 800 Sniper will do around 600)

    2) Remove sniper specific crit perks entirely from game and crit chance cap to 20.5%

    3) Since we have scaled damage up,Reduction of Crit Hit damage according to the damage scaled up To prevent devastating crit damage(Current multiple is 2.5,which should be reduced to keep crit hit damage similar to current one,I wont go into math)

    4)Reduction of projectile speed to 40,To prevent sniper devastatingly accurate a long Range..

    Consequence:--Current Base crit chance 15%

    So what most of the users will equip one cannon crit chance perk (If rare and epic) and Two damage perks.

    So the problem of sniper not doing enough damage as well as High crit chance on the side of both parties is taken care of...
     
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  6. Shadow Moon!

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    Or give me my frost back so I can look into how to get the thread closed, deleted and vanished from face of earth. Easy peasy:p
     
  7. SlAyEr

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    Snipers all the way!!:p:p
     
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    Being a lazy person I’ll just say
    Make it so that you cant Crit a defender.
    Then everyone who hates sniper would switch to defender.
    (I’m braced for salt)
     
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  9. Shadow Moon!

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    My epic tier 3 sniper does like 950 or something on defender with full crit. Its like nothing to a 10k monster which I am against now a days:p
    That defender would be thinking dude seriously 950 get away;)
     
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    Well if they couldn’t get critted sniper would be TRASH against them, making you have to run a Blast cannon against them, which would be trash because no crew skills.
     
  11. Shadow Moon!

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    Then nerf both:p
     
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    Nerf both of what?
     
  13. Eeyore

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    I know that. But the nerf wasn’t over the combo DPS, was about taking a hit and unfrosting. Still overpowered, period.
    On 1vs1, nothing changed.
     
  14. Shadow Moon!

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    Problem was frost not offering players chance to dodge, which is still in place. Frost breaking in 1 shot is total BS period.
     
  15. yellowocean

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    i suggest you guys get to nightmare first before you call for sniper nerf...
     
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  16. ViscountSniffit

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    The game isn’t just about nightmare. Most players aren’t in nightmare, and never will be.

    Frankly, I’m fed up with snipers and shooters. That’s all I ever see, and it has been that way since mk1.

    If the balance of power is different in nightmare, then fine... make the balance different for nightmare. No one in Warrior league needed a frost nerf, or an ExC nerf. No one in Challenger was keeping anyone on ‘perma stun’.

    What all the lower leagues desperately need is more ship and weapon variety. That means games need to stop being saturated with shooters and snipers.
     
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  17. yellowocean

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    then come up with more constructive suggestions instead of calling for nerfs everytime you hit a roadblock in your progress... if shooters with snipers are so abundant and dominant in your league, maybe a stat re-scale would be more appropriate instead of outright nerfs...
     
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  18. Zusay

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    As you know I am at nightmare as well and I am the one calling for the nerf. Not without reasoning as you can see in my first post here. Happy to see many opinions here to see if it's just me feeling this way. Would be great if you could state ur opinion on my points a bit clearer for a nice discussion as I value ur opinion a lot
     
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  19. ViscountSniffit

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    Firstly, I don’t ask for nerfs ‘everytime’ I hit a roadblock.

    I haven’t hit any roadblock, and the only item I’ve ever (EVER!) claimed needs nerfing is the sniper cannon (which has been my opinion from the start).

    The prevalence of shooters is perhaps a matter for another topic, but it should be obvious to anyone, that they are way overplayed.

    Secondly, I am being constructive, but sniper cannon still needs a strategic weakness. The fact that it ‘might’ not crit on the first shot is not a weakness, because there is no reliable way to exploit that, other than luck.

    I, and many others, have suggested that the crit rate scale down to zero at very close range. That would be a great first step. If a more ambitious “rescaling” is needed, then small steps is still probably the best way to approach it.
     
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  20. Shadow Moon!

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    I wish this statement was pinned into forums with big letters or sent to every person by mails untill they understand.
     
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