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Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Te rompi el tuje, 23 Nov 2017.

  1. Te rompi el tuje

    Te rompi el tuje Member

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    is it normal for you to win 10 battles in a row and then lose 15 as easily, keeping your infamy at + - 400/500 for months? This of winning and losing battles in a row does not happen only once, it happens hundreds of times and always in the same way ... the question is ... chance or causality? In the same way, lately you see battles generated by matchmaking where you already know how it's going to go ... and it's really frustrating to enter a battle where when you see the cast of players, you know in advance that it's going to be a 0 -5. I think the new matchmaking should take into account that lately the bay is filling p2w players full of legendary weapons that kill you on the first shot, summarizing, take into account weapons and their levels when calculating the distribution of players.
     
  2. Wymtime

    Wymtime Active Member

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    Matchmaking is a true mystery but yes you will float up and down. I went on a hot streak and got up to 2800 infamy and in 2 days dropped to under 2200 infamy. I am now back up to 2600 infamy. My biggest suggestion is when you get going on a roll keep going. When you are on a losing streak just take a 15 min break, try fleeting with someone, or just stop for a couple hours even. When you are on a losing streak a lot of things can happen like being too aggressive, or too passive.
    I also do believe after you have been on a strong winning streak you are matched up with others on a large winning streak so someone’s streak has to break. I imagine the same is also true for a losing streak, so when you are losing 3,4,5 matches in a row you are probably facing others on that type of streak when players start changing their play style to try and win. If you notice a lot of times when you go on a 3-4 game losing streak you get a match 5-0 or 5-1 where the matches only goes a short while because someone is too aggressive.

    This is only my believe and not the views of Rovio so take my suggestions with a grain of salt.
     
  3. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Believe is the keyword here :)
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    You win x games in a row -> your infamy goes up -> you face tougher matchups (as matchmaking is primarily based upon infamy) -> as matchups get harder you become more likely to lose.
    The matchmaking engine doesn't care if you win or lose, why would it? Its a compromise between trying to create fair matchups & keeping queue times short --- Is it perfect? By no means. Are most games winable for teams that work together? Absolutely.
     
  4. Te rompi el tuje

    Te rompi el tuje Member

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    in that case, I prefer to wait longer and have a fight with similar opponents. I agree that the MM does not care if you win or lose and consider your infamy, but in that case, I am often the most infamy in my team (4k or less) and on the other side there are players with 4.5 or more ... that is the unintelligible.
     
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  5. Stelmo

    Stelmo Well-Known Member

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    I'm just getting really tired of battles where I'm top of my team, babysitting, while the unfriends have fleets of 5000 or even 6000+ superwhales.
    It's become much worse since the new matchmaker was introduced.
     
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  6. Te rompi el tuje

    Te rompi el tuje Member

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    totally agree
     
  7. Dasun Lin

    Dasun Lin New Member

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    I've also experienced this since the last patch. The match system lets me win for a couple of battles, and after it, I lose a couple of battles.
    However, the frustrating things is, the results seem to be determined at the beginning of the battle. Most of them are end by 5-0, 5-1 or 0-5, 1-5.

    BTW I'm around 2600 infamy now.
     
  8. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Its your gear. The curve is really sharp for Ace league, when it comes to gear. You run into matchups where your weapons hit like wet noodle? I've had that happen to me too xD. 2400s
     
  9. Dasun Lin

    Dasun Lin New Member

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    I don't think so. Cuz I've been around 2600 - 3000 for 2 seasons, but I didn't feel this until recently. The battles were fierce before but now they are kinda boring.

    Anyway thanks for ur reply :)
     
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  10. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    I hope they get boring. Maintaining my infamy is a tough job lol. I'm currently developing my first rare t4 blast cannon. What's your setup, and what ship do you play?
     
  11. Dasun Lin

    Dasun Lin New Member

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    I achieved 3000+ with fixer, but I dropped to 2600 due to practicing shooter.
    However getting infamy is tougher than previous patches even when I play fixer.
    [​IMG]
     
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  12. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Damn, that's a sick setup. You've got some great equipment! So, high speed healing, huh? Noice.
     
  13. Harsh Gupta Hulk

    Harsh Gupta Hulk Active Member

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    I have been dwelling between 1900-2100 infamy for past week, its like I win 2 lose 3 ,then win 3 lose 2 this type of thing, always gets the tag of popular even if i m moving, It doesn't matter which type of infamy i got even if i am the one with lowest or highest infamy among the team I still get that tag and they come after me like crazy, in few games I don't have to do much, in some games even after losing I get away with 1-2 star each time in which team supports or not.I don't blame matchmaking because the more you fight with strong opponents the more you learn, but for past week I am learning only one thing that don't trust or rely on your teammates as sometimes no one listens.And yes matchmaking can't predict there nature {playing styles} but still it sometimes pairs me up with the guys who don't hit a shooter with 200 hit points remaining but instead run after a speeder in 2 vs 2 situation and get killed by both in the end [many more cases like that]. Although my real question is whats the fault or wrong thing that I am getting that popular tag and dwelling in the infamy ??
     
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  14. TheAntiSnipe

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    Can you drop me a match tag? You know, the tag that sppears in your battle log? Then I'll be able to see how you play without you having to upload the video.
     
  15. Harsh Gupta Hulk

    Harsh Gupta Hulk Active Member

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    Yeah Sure, You can suggest weapon change also if you want i can give you list of what I have different in weapons and items from this setup.:):)
    #TGNGTQZG, #VQHHPJRJ, #CJCDRLNY, #VLGGLXBK, #SQZHBZSY, #KPTHDGPR. #KZJHTHQX, #NFZGKPYF [Thinking to put this in the weekly replay competition]
     
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    Harsh Gupta Hulk Active Member

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    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Ill see them soon, don't worry about the repost, bro, I saved you the work
     
  19. BEN

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    I made a new account a couple weeks ago and before the new matchmaking update my then MK1 shooter went up against MK1s, 2s, 3s, and occationally terrible MK4 ships. I had about 600 infamy. Now with the new matchmaking I have since upgraded my shooter to MK2 and now have 700 infamy, but right now i match up with all MK4s. and I mean ALL the time like 99.9% of the time im up against all 5 ships being MK4s.

    Honestly I dunno what to make of this.. What happened to all the MK2s and 3s that i was playing with, did they all quit or has everyone else dropped infamy? What is up with all the MK4s having just 700 infamy These guys have x3 HP, better speed, T2 and 3 rares and some times even epics, while all i have is a T2 uncommon and a couple not-maxed T1 rares.. The difference in HP and ship speed is so big that I am forced to camp at the beginning of the match to wait and see where everyone is before making my move. If i play like I always do, which is to move towards the objective i get blown to bits since im the first one the enemy spots. Its crazy.
     
  20. Wymtime

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    I do disagree with you on this point. A lot of games that are true PVP and have ladders build win streaks and loosing streaks into the matchmaking. The developers want players to keep playing and if you go too long on a loosing streak it gets frustrating. By placing 10 players on a losing streak together in one match 5 players on losing streaks should end. This creates engagement. The also goes into winning streaks. Now yes the higher in infamy you go the better the players you will face, but matchmaking can include those streaks to balance out players infamy. I do know for a fact it is in other games and I think it is fair to say rovio wants or has something in place to balance winning streaks and loosing streaks in the game. What it is only they know but it is probably there
     
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