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Don't upgrade your ship.

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Evilchicken235, 17 Nov 2017.

  1. Evilchicken235

    Evilchicken235 Well-Known Member

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    Facts:
    We all know that upgrading your ship gives a positive impact to the game, due to extra item slots/points + stat boosts, which results in a better performance overall.
    Before the update, the only variable that the matchmaking algorithm accepted was infamy, so you will have a higher chance of reaching a higher infamy with higher performance (a higher tiered ship).
    But now matchmaking takes infamy + ship tiers into account and we do not know what the weighting of the ship tier is.
    So it is a now "possibility" that you could end up with a worse infamy if you upgrade your ship.

    My personal thoughts:
    I recommend Mk6s to not upgrade into Mk7s, since it only gives stat boosts, until you know how much it's going to impact your matchmaking.
    I'm not too worried about the other tiers since performance is enhanced significantly after each upgrade, so the possibility that upgrading your ship is bad should be lower.
     
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  2. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    I guess the ship tier is only considered if your infamy is lower than 1000 or something. Because after the update the amount of mk6 in ace 2 has increased significantly every match I encounter atleast 3 mk6 before it wasn't that frequent. Now there are mk6 even with infamy as low as 800 in same team with 3300 infamy.
     
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  3. Ash KOT

    Ash KOT MVP

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    Clearly something is wrong if a mk6 has 800 infamy!
     
  4. CaffeinatedChris

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    @Miika has mentioned that the new matchmaking has additional ramifications for seal-clubbers, including "matching them closer to their peak infamy" so that Mk6 was probably up in the 3000s before tanking.
     
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  5. Evilchicken235

    Evilchicken235 Well-Known Member

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    Ship tier is considered at all levels. The new update never said that you will encounter less higher tier ships. It only says ship tier is taken into account, so you might be matched with more lower infamy mk6s or be compensated with better teammates. Overall I don’t feel I’m matching up against less higher tier ships either, but I feel something definitely changed.
     
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  6. Miika

    Miika Game Lead

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    This has actually been in place and unchanged since we brought the first anti infamy tanking measures months and months ago. When ever you see a player with unexpectedly low amount of infamy in a battle that is the reason why they have been matched there.
     
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  7. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Just so you know, community members: DON'T piss off the devs, or THIS can happen to you;)
     
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  8. vis1234567899

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    lol
     
  9. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    @Miika what does this mean for under shipping?

    My main ship is mk5, but I have upgraded my Enforcer and Fixer to mk3. If I join games with them will I be matched against another mk3?

    I saw that happen in one of my games with people using mk2s. Is that how it always works?

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  10. vis1234567899

    vis1234567899 Well-Known Member

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    yes one other mk3 but the rest of ur team will be mk5 or mk4
     
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  11. Ian

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    Will we see the rise of mk5 fixers, who were already almost as good as mk6 fixers and possibly the best mk5 boat?
     
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  12. Shadow Moon!

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    Yeah and worst mk5 is enforcer.
     
  13. vis1234567899

    vis1234567899 Well-Known Member

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    you know its awkward when u see a mk1 fixer with better item than the mk5s ( in terms of weapon)
     
  14. Sandra baldwin

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    3FB9197E-8981-4285-8438-047C073926BF.png I would have never upgraded my ship if i had know it would this much impact on match ups
     
  15. Sandra baldwin

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    View attachment 7081 I would have never upgraded my ship if i had know it would this much impact on match ups i didnt even get a star?!
     
  16. Joey who

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    Good riddance. Hope you quit because if it. And on a side-note how are you not banned
     
  17. TheFixer27

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    UNLESS YOU DIDNT TANK YOUR INFAMY
     
  18. Sandra baldwin

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    Can you please tell me the benefit of that i really dont understand the purpose of tanking infamy! My goal was always to move forward the rewards are higher! Sometimes through match ups that didnt happen! Proir to changes i was level 1700 i have not won many battles since its pairing me with ships 2500 and above! Why does everyone think your cheating?! I dont see the benefit of that
     
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  20. Sandra baldwin

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    you are an unhappy member of the universe who must have had a bad childhood! You were probably one of the cry babies complaining how wrongly you were losing! Grow up loser
     

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