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Can we have a serious discussion about sniper cannon?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Dvd2812, 1 Nov 2017.

  1. Eeyore

    Eeyore Well-Known Member

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    Lol that was funny. We can’t forget that battle bay is a game also for young people, too much realism might freak them out lol.

    I think that sniper is ok for now. I also take shots of 1.8k or even 2.2k critical, but that’s acceptable, those are from T5 Epics or Legendaries, both with perks to do bigger critical and to do it also. Some ppl struggled hard to reach that point, it’s not everyone that do such damage.

    Also, when not critical, average shot is doing over 550 ~ 770 damage, it’s ok.
     
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  2. Spinners71

    Spinners71 Well-Known Member

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    The Sniper Cannon isn't a long-range weapon, it's an all-range weapon.
    Sniper damage (even considering crits) seems in good balance with other weapons, but it's so extremely popular because it's so good at long range AND short range.
    I feel there should be a price to pay for long-range power, but ... what should that look like?

    Make damage scale with shot range?
    Make crit % chance scale with shot range?
    Or, embrace that it's universally powerful at all ranges, and then...
    Increase cooldown (and maybe increase damage a bit) so it's harder to spam?
    Increase cost to 2-slots (and maybe increase damage a bit) so it requires more of a build choice consideration than a fits-on-all-ships-bc-it's-super-cheap-and-powerful-in-all-situations ?

    I don't know the answer, but I understand the frustration.
    I don't use Sniper Cannon because it feels a little like cheese-ing.
    It's just too easy to use, and at only 1-slot it's a very easy price to pay for its universal usefulness.
     
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  3. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Sniper's curve is bad anyways. Have you tried playing sniper on sub-zero?

    But of course snipers have a curve. Or elsen you would see sniper bullets in outer space.

    What goes up must come down ;)
     
  4. Morning_Sword

    Morning_Sword New Member

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    U are making it a railgun. I think
    u are maaking it railgun. I think we already have that. Sniper should be removed. People should start using railgun in its place. I think that should be fair
     
  5. Morning_Sword

    Morning_Sword New Member

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    But when it crits. U have already won the game then. And u can surely risk losing few for that crappy "non crit" . How does it feel to have done the damage of big torp with such a great luck. U definitely want to be that lucky player. Rather than some strategic player
     
  6. Miku Da Yo 39

    Miku Da Yo 39 Well-Known Member

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    If they buff the range on the sniper from say base 40 to 50, then they can reduce dmg done at farther range, say by a maximum of 25% less dmg if at max range. Dmg drop off begins at 50% of max range onwards.
     
  7. TheCrisco

    TheCrisco Active Member

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    Having never gotten a rare or better sniper cannon to drop, it gets incredibly frustrating trying to compete with them with my blast cannon. Yeah, my standard damage is better, but I also have to lead properly, get in to ~half the range of a sniper, and pray to god I don't get critted to pieces before I can do my thing, all while their weapon is equally effective at any range, while mine is pointless beyond 25 meters and still far more difficult to hit with inside of that. I don't want to explicitly call it unbalanced without seeing the data that Rovio does, but I think sniper could use another pass to make sure it isn't out-performing its de facto counterpart on a regular basis.
     
  8. Miku Da Yo 39

    Miku Da Yo 39 Well-Known Member

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    Give Blast cannon a dmg boost at long range. 0-50% of max range regular dmg. 50-100% of max range, up to 25% bonus dmg
     
  9. Miathan

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    Lol, no. My sniper crits for 1k, I'd need 3 crits to kill even the weakest of speeders at my infamy level.
     
  10. Morning_Sword

    Morning_Sword New Member

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    UOTE="Miathan, post: 68938, member: 6531"]Lol, no. My sniper crits for 1k, I'd need 3 crits to kill even the weakest of speeders at my infamy level.[/QUOTE].
    Don't tell me u don't have other weapons. To complete ur kill after a critt.
    After a player gets critted he becomes a red target in the game. The whole foe starts to go for him. And that way u come to winning.
     
  11. Joey who

    Joey who Well-Known Member

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    Sniper is just another weapon. If you hate it, then use it. Your crying is useless.

    Let's focus on something that's actually broken, like frost
     
  12. Kraptastic

    Kraptastic Active Member

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    I've been a fan of using all of the cannons at one point or another, and sniper is my least favorite to use. It is not easy to hit, if your opponent is moving, and it barely does any damage. Sure, with enough sugar and a few epic perks it becomes deadly, but you can say that about any weapon. If someone has put enough time and money into this weapon to make it deadly it deserves to do some damage.
     
  13. xxxBISMARCKxxx

    xxxBISMARCKxxx Well-Known Member

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    You should have to be 'zoomed in' (when you hold targeting) to get full sniper cannon crit buff. That would solve everything and make sense with the concept of the weapon. You don't go for a head shot shooting from the hip, you have to line it up in the scope.
     
  14. Dvd2812

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    Lol, you make me laugh.
    I already made a mini account to use sniper. It works great.
    I also made that account a mortar spaming, it also works great.
    Everything my main account get frustrated to is working great on my mini account.
    My mini got to 2000 infamy at lvl 28. Compared to my main is lvl 40 only at 2k6-3k.
    I just hated that I made the wrong choice to choose blast cannon, which is not supposed to be wrong if sniper cannon was way overused at my range. Compared to the stat, sniper is the most used weapon in the whole game, double the use rate of blast cannon at the leaderboard [source from a forumer]
     
  15. Joey who

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    So because your main account has blast cannons but not snipers, nerf sniper then. Lmfao
     
  16. TheAntiSnipe

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    Before this turns into a fight, lets see. Sniper cannons are okay, in my opinion. You know why?

    I'm a speeder. At my infamy(1.6k) a speeder mk4 (like me) can be oneshot by a SINGLE crit from a epic t2-t3. But they need to hit me first, don't they?

    If you guys are whining about speeders dying too easily from a shot from a snipe, you have bad speeder skills. And please dont talk to me about it being "unfaaaaaair for shooooooters". Deal with it. You have good armour, and a high number of weapons.

    And to those of you who complain about blast cannon being weak... One word. Blacktail.
    I destroy sniper cannon users on a daily basis. 700+ *consistent* damage coming out of a barrel of a ONE slot weapon? God help us. That's the nightmare of the blast cannon. You lead your shot, the enemy starts saying their prayers. Simple. Blast cannon dont need luck. It just punches you hard regardless of whether youre lucky or not.
     
  17. Dvd2812

    Dvd2812 Member

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    Speeder are fast, thats okay to use blast cannon and take risks. But enforcer like me it is pretty hard, the onlything I can survice is to rely on my testla. The testla is nerfed, I understand that. Now this happend to a set up of : firegun, and blast cannons. I can't approach them with out dying anymore. I been to 3k but dropped hard, and now I have to change my whole set up again. It would take months to upgrade an epic sniper cannon to tier 3 and replace one of my blast cannon.

    Hear me out guys, my whole purpose of the game is messed up. I have gone so mad that I have to make this thread.
     
  18. Morning_Sword

    Morning_Sword New Member

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    Then use the frost. Rather stop whining abt it!! LOL
     
  19. Morning_Sword

    Morning_Sword New Member

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    Well u will start praying when someone crits u in first shot. Then u lose the whole confidence and if u survive with some hp left. U will still be whining abt sniper crit.
    Mk4 speeder 2.1k infamy
     
  20. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    That brand of rhetoric is fallacious, and only amounts to poisoning the well.

    Rather than arguing the issue, it only seeks to discredit opposition by attacking people personally, which is unfounded, and beside the point.

    Why should a speeder even need excessive amounts of skill to survive a sniper, when it is arguably the easiest weapon in the game to hit with (requiring the least ‘skill’, owing to the fast projectile)? Not to mention one of the most popular weapons, and with the greatest range.
     

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