Shooters Need A Nerf

If you'd rather have extra shield or guns it just means that your playstyle is more fitted to a Shooter than a Speeder/whateveryouare, I mean you practically said it yourself.

 

Shooters may have weapons and all but if they don't have the speed to avoid mortars and move quickly they don't have much left to do in the game. They will be sitting ducks like defenders with a lot of hit points with big guns but so slow you don't even need to frost one to torp them or drop a mortar. Speed for a shooter I guess is only for getting into position quickly as they are main damage dealers in the team. Defenders have a lot of hit points to help them survive and compensate for their slow speed. Shooters with big guns won't do much when other boats are picking off their team mates one by one and they are too slow to even help out. They will be too scared to even come out and help their team cos they won't be able to avoid damage. If the main damage dealers are taking time to get into position then other boats with 2 or 3 weapons will have to deal considerable damage which I think is not that easy. At least for a speeder if a shooter is too slow I'll have to stay back the whole time and run around avoiding mortars and cannon shots until the main damage dealer is in position and ready to support.

I would like to know what should be the ideal speed of a shooter in your opinion when maxed out compared to other ships at same mk. It might help me understand your point better.

 

Getting shot at doesn't need any skill on a players part at least. It's all up to unfriends.
A players skill is about avoiding the shots and helping out the team to deal some damage.

 

So a speeder destroys 3 boats single handedly in this video, including a full health mk7 shooter. Make sure you watch vids like this before making posts like this. COME on guys, fixer are weak, enfo is weak, defender is weak, They deserve BUFF. BUT SHOOTER is well balanced. SHOOTER CANNOT BEAT Any SINGLE BOAT 1 VS 1
1)enforcer can dance and dodge shots
2)speeder can use stun flare cycle
3)And don't even talk about charging defender (SSLY have you all played against OA TO WDK)

BTW SPEEDER SHOULD BE LAST BOAT TO ASK FOR NERFING ANY OTHER BOAT

 

since when does a tier 1 legendary torpedo do 4000 damage to one ship. His torpedo basically one shotted most of the team.

 

+40-50% damage to frosted from sinklair and +36%(if all epic frost damage perk) from Perks

 

well that guys has seriously overpowered weapons so really that is not an accurate impression of most speeders

 

Legendary tier 1 is not OP, IT'S LIKE EVERYONE HAS ONE THESE DAYS.

 

but does yours do 4000 damage all the time. a lot of players dont have legendaries and if they do, they do not have
a big torpedo

 

Oh come off it. He’s got a 2000 infamy advantage over half that team (mk7 against mk5s), and t5 epic everything. How is that representative? All that proves is whales have awesome ships, it doesn’t say anything about the balance in general. (Edit: also he nearly died half way through)

And what ship I choose to use has absolutely no bearing on whether the ships are well balanced.

I could probably agree that speeders could use some big changes, I’m totally open to that, but that’s not what this topic is about. Stop deflecting.

 

Exactly what i think

 

Every boat should have equal number of slots shooter have 1 extra that's one imbalance of the lot.
Considering speeders have speed how many speed items they can use? Max 4 a turbo, a overboost and a nitro duplicate of one either but talking logically variation is better.
Fixer can have max 3 healing items.
Defenders also can have max 3 shields or 4 shields.
Only shooters can equid 5 weapons considering its specialisation so why this is fair?

 

Another example: if you were to compare mk3s with t1 rares (which is about you’d have at mk3). The mk3 shooter can equip double turbos and achieve about the same speed as a turboed speeder. And it would still have more hp than a speeder with a shield (which would now be slower than a shooter). So it’s already objectively better, and that’s before you take into account the two extra guns, and extra armour.

 

Shooter really need a nerf ,it has a good health with a large defence points...it's not fair because it has already 5 slots for weapons...all this things together make her undefeatable

 

I can challenge you that you can't defeat a mk5 shooter with any mk5 ship accept speeder..coz I admit speeder is really powerful.

 

1) you are, as others have said, an mk4 playing against an mk5
2) you play the ship with the lowest amount of weapons
3) 1 of your 2 weapons has weak single target damage (explosive cannon)
4) you still almost killed him because he got to 1 HP and below 100 a few more times

I have no idea how from that you concluded that shooter is OP.

 

"I got great skill, but the only reason I can't reach high infamy is because I don't use the overpowered shooter."

 

I told him to wait until MK5, TO see real potential of speeders. But no, he isn't ready to listen(Btw sniffit is quite good mk4). Someone in forum (based carpen guy) jumped about 700 infamy with mk5 speeder..
WELL, I guess someone wants to reach nightmare with mk4 speeder ...

DIDN'T Knew infamy makes boat powerful. When a boat reaches 5k+ surpassing the ships with better weapons than it, it comes down to skill and of course the boat(can't do the same with fixer, the demands if buff at high level are legit) ...

BTW, i was enforcer in past. Believe me noone feels the wrath of shooter than a low level mk4 enforcer(mind well mk4 enforcer only two weapons at mk4). When overboost runs out, even a defender can catch up with you. I reached 2300 with that(Check my oldest posts if you want proof) . So no!! I m not one of those guys who loves to be in denial every reasonable thread created and enjoy trolling