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Guild Hoppers and Loophole Exploiters

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Dobson, 8 Oct 2017.

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  1. Dobson

    Dobson Member

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    I want to address the guild hopping and token farming that started from the beginning of the 2nd rivalry season (Friday 6.10.)
    and has been picking up in scale since. I have talked with some of the guild hoppers and they claim its a Rovio-cleared event? (according to REV Niraj)

    Both from business and game balance standpoint this sounds so absurd that it cannot be true.

    I first noticed a guild late Friday REVENANTS guild had been renamed to Bluelotus U Mad?, by next day they (a core group of 25-30 players
    with some variation) had undergone many different guild names, Count Rick, Wuuhuuu etc. They explained their strategy:

    Go for the easy board fast and then form a new guild, going for the easy board fast, and rinse repeat. This way they have
    farmed from 24,000 to 48,000 guild raffle tokens in one hour. (12,000 from board completion and 1000 * 12 from quests)

    Since yesterday former Team Canada started to do this too - yesterday they were RENEGAYS and today they are team
    Canada II. Also from today Final Family Bay has started guildhopping and token farming.

    Me and some of my fellow players would like an announcement from developers to say this guild hopping
    is not permitted, and that the attained loot will be reset from server side from all participants.

    It makes going for anything else than the easy quest board completely pointless, as the guild hopping gains an
    active farming group even 480,000 guild raffle tokens in one day.

    Those amounts undermine both the players who have bought in app purchases and longtime faithful players
    who have grinded item and perk progression before 2.5. update!


    Please address this and reset those gained benefits from the guild hoppers and loophole exploiters.

    Attached some screenshots, mainly of the bluelotus u mad?/count rick/wuuhuuu guild and RENEGAYS (former Team Canada...)

    GuildHopping.jpg
     
  2. DaveRay35

    DaveRay35 Active Member

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    Agreed. Easy fix:
    Both guilds, and guild members, can only participate in guild quests from start of mini season.

    This will kill guild hoppers and also kill this 'create new guild' exploitation (ruination) of the fantastic new guild quests.
     
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  3. Rock'N'Rolla

    Rock'N'Rolla Active Member

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    U have game developer in your guild. What does he say about this situation?
     
  4. Dobson

    Dobson Member

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    Much of this guildhopping has been coordinated through Discord app, that's why the hoppers have been very efficient and
    concentrated, with maximum loot.

    Also, the claims that the game developers have cleared this ecosystem-crumbling behaviour in a Discord app discussion are
    doubly absurd, as Discord is not an official communications channel for Rovio.
     
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  5. Dobson

    Dobson Member

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    I don't have any game developers in my guild!
     
  6. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    Don't you fleet with Bennunator, ask him
     
  7. Lucian758

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    Lmfao boy devs really messed up this time I wanna start doing this so bad because the epic perks and legendary weapons but I have a strong feeling devs will just dumb down guild raffle board but then that would affect us non cheater players while those who did it already have all the precious loot
     
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  8. Rock'N'Rolla

    Rock'N'Rolla Active Member

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    Man, Bennunator is game Developer.
     
  9. Dobson

    Dobson Member

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    No he is the Community Manager. This is a game design / server loophole.
     
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  10. DaveRay35

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    Exactly!! The easy option for the devs leads to short term gain for the exploiters, long term pain for everyone else...
     
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  11. Terry Morgan

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    If the devs have any creditability they will remove all items from the guilds that gained them through exploitation and punish them accordingly. We shall see how they handle the matter. Signed Guilds that didn't cheat and deserve retribution for those that did. Thanks
     
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  12. Kitterini

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    Fully agreed that its a slippery slope if they let cheating to this degree go by unpunished.

    Full reroll to prepatch state for all the worst offenders must be coming if its technically possible.
     
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  13. Dobson

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    Hoping that the community can help the developers to find all the culprits (if it comes down to resources which it shouldnt), I know many of us lawful players have been taking screenshots and documenting the exploit through the weekend - so we are here if any documentation is needed. Should be fairly easy to see item / perk progression and guild history for all the implied individuals - and also to identify farming leaders and masterminds.
     
  14. AoiTenshi

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    This have been an issue after they release guild quest, but it seem dev take too long consideration too fix this issue. So everyone start to take the exploit

    IMO this issue should be handle fast, to prevent hopping and create new guild just to obtain raffle token.

    There's an a lot idea/suggestion in the forum which they can use as reference.
     
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  15. Joey who

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    All players better not get reset back to day 1 of update. My guild has spent so many pearls on superboost packs for the guild so we can do the quests the legit way

    Here's a good idea: All players who have gotten the 12k tokens for completing board 1 over 5 times should be reset back to day 1 of the update and (optional) be banned for a few weeks aswell.

    Leave us legit players alone, we have worked hard to do the most seemingly impossible quests instead of using exploits

    @Miika @Zeus @The Grim Repair
     
  16. ●H€ll-Blad€●

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    Revenants or whatever other guilds with top players are cheating by exploiting new guild raffle/rivalry.they deserve to be banned.
     
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  17. WAR GOD 96

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    Ban those revenant or renegade like guild for cheating on this game. They have already spent so much money that no one can get legendary items like they have and we can not reach near them when it comes to damage , because we use rare items and they use tier 5 legendary holy shit. They kill us with hardly 4-5 shots and we never go up in infamy . If this cheat continues then I will leave this game for always ....have a good day rovio members . Do something fast or leggit players are going to leave this game soon
     
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  18. Dobson

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    WAR GOD 96, Renegades guild was one of the top guilds that never joined this craziness. There was a majority of Battle Bay players abiding by the rules
    when encountering this chance to cheat. In my national top50 list the farmers constituted only 4% of the total. The other guild you mentioned - if it will be counted a
    bannable offense, I agree with you about those members who farmed. We all know who they are. I think the majority of legit non farming players are waiting for
    all the loophole spoils to be rolled back in one way or another, then peace and battle harmony can fully return at the bay.
     
  19. Wishaal

    Wishaal Well-Known Member

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    Only like 4% of your top 50 cheated O.O

    In my country it's more than 50% lol. Maybe even more than 80%
     
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  20. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    What is sad about all this is that it's for virtual items and monetary. Imagine that if people jump on a chance to cheat and exploit in a mobile game, how pathetic of them in real life. If I don't think the game is fun anymore, I just move on to another game. I am not a whale but I do spend a little to pay the devs for a game I am enjoying. I just realize about this since yesterday when I saw quite a few of people on my friend list changing guilds constantly every few hours. I was only guessing what it was for then.
     
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