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Rework mortars

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Crashedup, 23 Sep 2017.

  1. Wishaal

    Wishaal Well-Known Member

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    Maybe you didn't read my comment, 1,17 speed is more than enough to Dodge mortars. So 1,24 speed is plenty if you've got the skill.

    (I recently upgraded my turbo, but even with 1,03 speed I had no issues dealing with mortar. So you can either get angry at me, or just use that time to develop your own skill)
     
  2. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    My speed is 1.54:p
     
  3. Crashedup

    Crashedup Well-Known Member

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    How many mortars target u at that infamy 3 to 4 people lobbying shots at u one after the other ? And that's the whole pt a newbie how can a person who started playing this game will get around ur Sol states that stay there until u have around 3 k battles under ur belt?
    M just saying move the dmg perks to little later around lvl 14 of training by the time u get to lvl 25 of ur account u unlock increase in damage talents from training where is the problem in that m not saying the mortars are op in the end game they are balanced maybe a little speed projectile buff at lvl 25 + about 10-15% but they are op at the beginning of the game
     
  4. Gnu

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    Mortars can become overpowered in the late game, with the following combo with frost blaster it’ll create a deadly combo. Some people run frost blaster on yellow ships. You can take advantage of it by using your mortar on the frosted target. Even fixers go frost and run a big berta. You may find mortars underpowered in the late game, but they aren’t. They are also used by many shooters, mortars are deadly against group targets. Especially people camping with fixers and mauling down heavy tanky defenders.
     
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  5. Wishaal

    Wishaal Well-Known Member

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    They're not, they're just easy to use. Let's take railgun for example... extremely powerfull, more powerfull than mortars. But it's just really hard to hit with it. Mortars aren't overpowered, they're just easy to use and easy to deal with. The moment you figured out how to deal with mortars, That's the moment you'll be able to rise your infamy.

    Trust me, we've all been there in that range where it seemed impossible to deal with mortars. We know the feeling. You just have to trust us that sooner or later they won't be an issue for you anymore.
     
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  6. Crashedup

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    Oh m in 1000 infamy range and have done around 2k battles so not exactly a newbie or low on skill but maybe I may not have have skill so teach me how can I dodge mortars when i have red area of mortar left and right of me upto 3-4 tiles and this continues till I die. ( Because I have to move in closer to the enemy to shoot them .
    My setup is ex canon flare gun and blast canon don't have any other weapons and only have only tier one sniper .) And mortars aren't powerful as one or two but mortar spamming is and its real and the the dmg b/w tier 3 excanon and big Berta is more than 150 for rare items.
     
  7. Wishaal

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    Euhm, if you use an mk3, then props to you, that means you've been doing really well. You're little bit too high for an mk3 ship lol.

    If you use an mk4 ship, You're on average level, getting out of the average level is really hard, only few players manage to do that, and most of them are Pay2Win.

    So how to Dodge mortars... first of all, don't put yourself in a position where you are an easy target for multiple players. This happens most of the time if you enter the frontline too quickly.

    Always keep moving, and do not sail into a straight line, rather make lots of curves, this will make it really hard to hit you. Even people with point damage weapon will have trouble hitting you that way. If you move this way, people have no way of hittin you with mortar without leading their shots.

    If you do happen to encounter a player that knows how to lead his shot, then the middle circle will most likely be 3-5 boat lengts away from you. So just stop sailing and you won't get hit. Or even better, if you have quick reflexes, just turn away from the red area as fast as you can. It may happen that at that moment the waves are a little bit annoying. Don't fight the waves, But rather move with the waves So you won't get slowed down.
     
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  8. Shadow Moon!

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    Or maybe use speeder;)
     
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  9. Crashedup

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    Every combo is strong but for the combo u mentioned it need two ships to because mortars are not exactly a good weapon for yellow boats and second kitterini did a post about the usage of mortars in nightmare league that came about 1 player in top 50 player and in total 400 player of nightmare league he said the mortars are hardly used by them thread is named meta snapshot 25/8
     
  10. Crashedup

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    Can't don't have the yellow items lvled up and the ex canon requires Mk4 so need a lot of gold and I might be considered tanking using Mk4 ship near this infamy
     
  11. Shadow Moon!

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    Because nightmare league players are incredibly experienced they know maps wells mortars can't reach everywhere on maps. There are strategic points where mortars can't reach so it is pointless to use a weapon with which you can't deal damage.
     
  12. Shadow Moon!

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    You'll get those in due course don't worry.
     
  13. Crashedup

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    That sounds good but my setup calls for moving in frontline as canons range are low. I did tried doing somewhat off what u mentioned but when I stand still a sec then it takes time to get the ship moving again and in that time I get target by pt dmg anyway I will try this again.
     
  14. Babablacksheep

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    Mortars sure do need work for increasing thier endgame usage. I have invested in Epic Lrm and now i think its a waste. But the moment i drop infamy, I have to face mortars spammers and my team has mortar spammers, and all are fighting above the wall, while i m trying to sneak in some canon shot losing half of my HP. Mortars aren't overpowered for sure, but when you have mortar spammers in matches (both enemies and friends, mostly the case in low infamy) a shooter with good canons /points shoot does not survive. So its kind of dilemma whether to use or scrap mortar for a shooter. I guess i will scrap shooter for some other ship:eek:
     
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  15. Shadow Moon!

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    Good idea. Welcome to speeders den and escape mortars like a boss.:p
     
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  16. EyeOfDoom

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    Well I got a simple fix. Make them all 2 slots except standard Mortar. Only people "quitting" the game will be spammers and we don't wanna see them anyway. 10/10 would work.
     
  17. Wishaal

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    Plz leave my ballpark mortar out of this, thank you very much.
     
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  18. Crashedup

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    Or they shift to missiles way faster.
     
  19. Joey who

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    Heat seeking mortars please
     
  20. _devill

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    Mortar spammers will always be there. They keep annoying the rest of us who are learning to play better every day. If they are on opposite team they will be the last in the line to come out. I run speeder mk4 and i love to target mortar spammers. They go down faster than they can say 'mortar spam' in close range. (i try to point out the spammer to my team hoping that our team has a spammer too:p)

    Plus they resort to running most of the time knowing they can't do any damage at close range. Worst case scenario, unfriends see you as singled out and take you down. Best case scenario, you distract the unfriends long enough for your team to do some considerable damage.

    I used shooter as my first ship and gave up after getting over 1000+ infamy due to this very reason. When I saw mortar spammers I also wanted to do the same but i had no mortars. Just one berta which i used out of sheer frustration when going against spammers. I like using cannons. Mortars are powerful weapons, no doubt, but require less skill to use than a cannon or torp. So try to play with some other ship you are good with. I will go back to using shooter someday. All cannon setup = a cannon spammer.:D

    Imo mortars don't need rework, players do.:)
     

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