DevReply I think matchmaking is ok.

After reading tons, TONS of people crying because of infamy lose and bad matchmaking, I'll write a few words...
- Seems like it wasn't a few words after all, lol.

You can't expect to win, it would be unfair for the opposite team if you had an advantage most of the time.
(And then they would rage in forums, because they didn't win)
- Someone has to lose, and it can be you, just as much as the others.

Don't you know what 50/50 matchmaking means? It means you can't be sure if you win or lose.
(I know, this is where the skill part steps in, I'll mention that further down)
- Haven't you played casino or coin flip before? If not, let me tell you, there you also have the chance of losing 8 times a row with a 50/50 odds.
*cries after bad memories, lol*

Yeees yes, there are times where it's almost impossible to win... Well, if it was you who was on the good team, you wouldn't complain. (very funny, huh?)
- If matchmaking should be 100% 50/50% fair, finding a battle would take hours and then people would start complaining about that..

Same goes for other games, such as Battlefield, Counter-Strike and other online team-play games. Sometimes there are people who are "one-man-army" and can do more than most.
- You can do the same, if you find the perfect weapon combination, and use tactics. (Instead of rushing out alone...)

I've also tried fighting with MK5 team against people such as, P0rthos, BITTERSTEEL, Miika and so on.
(We/I got banged hard lol, and it wasn't the only time - but I can tell, that I've also won those battles before)
But that's just a part of online gameplay!

Otherwise we all could look at "Finding a match" for 10min, instead of ~30sec/1min.
- As a bonus, I can tell, I've had a team that's:
x4 MK6 and x1 MK5 (my team)
against
x2 MK6 and x3 MK6
guess what, we lost... and I thought we had it from the beginning.

I know, people with different opinions will arrive, but hit me up, it's good.
I'll try to stay as active as possible, if opinions will arrive
I'm just a player who think matchmaking is ok.
- I know and understand it can be better, in some way, but I'm not sure how. When talking about "more fair and balanced matchmaking", only i can think of is added time in battle queue.

- Pic for showing that i have just as good and bad times as you.
(5 hours between the win/lose wave)

 

almost a 2000 infamy difference between players in that match. Also, that match made me lose all respect for Orpheus. He was floating that match, and I think he was floating on purpose. He probably floated the whole match just so that his guildmate could rise his infamy. No matter how good you are, if you have no problem draging down your other 4 teammates, then I just lose all my respect for you.

 

I'll agree, what Orpheus did was a douche move...! And it could easily have something to do with his mate..
(Unless he lost internet connection, but let's stick with the floating and that he betrayed his team, because that seems most obvious)

I see the big different and I feel you, but otherwise, the 4500+ infamy guys will have battle queue for 10min if they can't match up with players around 3500 infamy.
This problem might be fixed automatically when more players reach 4000+ infamy (but the community isn't that big, yet)
Afterwards there will be enough online high-infamy players so the queue won't be that high.

 

My only issue is that once you hit 3k, you start getting paired with upper to nightmare league players. Being paired with Waveblower/Brizo maxed out heals vs my T3 rare was pretty depressing and getting 2 shot by epics left and right, I'm so out of my league. I guess that can't be helped with the player base being too small for the upper level players but it's still pretty sad, just hope people progress fast enough to fill the space. In the mean time, I'll just be a leech for the 10 seconds I survive in those kind of matches.

 

Matchmaking is ok. But banning needs to be enforced way more than it is right now. I see the same players tanking their infamy every single day.

 

its not like you cant report him untill he gets banned :0

 

There could be something about that, or at least give them a warning (personal warning).
I know and also see some problems, but I think the matchmaking system that goes for now, is the best.
With this system, there are least problems.

Making a matchmaking after level (Could be a farmer who just upgrade his characters, so that won't work either)
Making a matchmaking after a players skills (how do you define skills? - impossible)
Making a matchmaking after amount of players weapon-rarities. (Players who spend money don't stand af chance, and those who don't would have it too easily)
(Don't hang me up on those ideas, just created them for seeing matchmaking from another view)

 

I totally agree with you mate. This is very well said .

Also what you said about making longer matchings is almost impossible as then 4k+ people would need to line way more than now (I have to wait 2-5 mins at 4k infamy so imagining how long those guys at 5k has to wait (5-10 mins already) is something I do not want to experience so much.) That's why you can't really make queuing longer as it would mean over 15min wait time for high league players.
--> And now for those who wants to say "but there's so few of them, what about the rest of us... etc etc..." -- Do not bother. Sure, there is less people there but seriously you can't demand them to wait that long just because they've got higher on infamy than you have got.

 

The problem is not the matchmaking

The problem is that there are several unskilled higher level players with powerful ships and items who are below the infamy levels they are supposed to be at (intentionally or unintentionally) making the whole game frustrating for everybody

 

That's just a part of online gameplay!
* S u r p r i s e *

 

I agree with @Bobbafed99 the matchmaking is not broken. You can't keep winning all the time. That is NOT a 50-50 win ratio. That's wrong. The fun of these games are also losing. You gain experience about other players and use their strategies against them. I completely agree with @Bobbafed99

 

I agree and I'd be fine with it if it happened to me and everybody like 50% of the time, but when it happens to me like 60% of the time, it gets a bit frustrating.

 

It is probably because of intentionally droping but that is impossible to get out completely tbh. Also it is not matchmaking's (=mm) fault that there is those guys and mm can't know who is droping on purpose.

 

Matchmaking is slightly bad rn because see it this way a tier 5 epic missiles can take down an mk5 speeder. People at higher infamy don't mind spending a few mins for the matchup.
Every other successful mobile game does that take for instance supercell games like clash of clans or clash royale.
Getting matched up against someone who is 1500+ infamy on u is just bullshit and it's stops more player from reaching nightmare league.
My suggestion is 1000 infamy difference should be the max difference when matching up because
a. It will increase chances of more people reaching nightmare league.
b. More competitive leaderboard.
c. Less people leaving game (rage quitting)
d. And less complaint on forum for it lol.
PS : The few min wait at nightmare league is better than 2000 difference matchmaking.

 

Well honestly, if you do get killed by t5 missiles instantly, you are not supposed to be in nightmare yet, sorry but it is the truth.
Then again same thing... if you get matched with nightmare people and those who are almost in there, you're too high at ranks if you can't compete. (Yes, I have been in same situation and I do know what I am talking about)

Then again... we are not talking about "few mins" or do you think 5-15 min is few? No, it isn't. If we reduce the scale, it will make them make more than 5-15mins.. even up to 30 min and then the complaining starts about that. Last thing about this is that people who now complain about this does get closer to nightmare but when they do get to that 1k range you supposed, they'll face them again and this same whining starts again.

Oh and what comes to your c-point, it would not make lower infamy players rage quit so much. That is true but it would make higher infamy players to quit as this is entertainment for them and if you do make them sit and wait like 20-30 mins per 5 min match, they will go elsewhere --> game starts to die as this starts to repeat itself when new people gets to that point.

 

Ur point about not getting hit by missiles doesn't make sense to me hear u r saying is that a nightmare league person is invincible maybe I didn't get my point through what I meant was I m doing good dmg to unfriendly team but I don't wanna die with a single shot or two that's unfair.
And second m not talking about players in nightmare league m talking about player below 1000+ infamy than them.
Now about the matchmaking I just said that it should not be with someone who is 1000 + infamy down on u upto 1000 it's okay.
It will not increase the time of matchmaking as much as u think rn how many matches do u play with someone 1000+ infmany down on u? The max time limit will be 5 min.
Believe me I have played games which had much lower player base than this game and at the top it took 10 mins when the game had 500k downloads rovio already has 6million + download so much bigger base.
And as for not fun for nightmare league people
1.Most of them r playing this game since beta when the player base was quite low so if they didn't leave in a year with much more increased matchmaking time they r not going anywhere now.
2.the nightmare league player base is quite small u can say insignificant to the player base of other league so if the game will die it will be due to rage quitting of lower league people as they constantly run into this wall not nightmare league people leaving due to boredom as u say
3.and as more people will reach nightmare the time of matchmaking will automatically be reduced.

 

It's not a 50/50 chance of winning, is it? That would be the best way.

No one is going to complain about a win streak the same way no one says their favorite weapon is overpowered.
But when you get hit with that sudden 6 game losing streak because you fought your way up, it's going to frustrate a few people.

 

matchmaking is faked by admins to push pay to win players.
admins delete the winratio statistics in profile that nobody can check the win ratio and nobody can knowledge the manipulation whats going on. before update and delete winratio in profile: near to 85 percent of gamer in top 200 was under 50 percent win ratio. you think win ratio is 50/50 haha. 85 percent gets 47-49 percent and 15 percent gets 51-62 percent.
you think the top 10 list gets lower teams because of 1000 infamy more then enemys best? nope. top 10 list gets mk7 and mk6 ships in team with 1000 inf more. and the enemy best with 1000 inf. less get a mk 5 team.
the infamy system is also faked. +23 for regular gamer and +24 for ptw gamer. check out the world list. which gamer get more the +25 and +23 inf and which gamer get more the +23 and -25 infamys. yes ptw

 

Another quality contribution from your hand
Winrates for most are in the late 40's because of draws.

As for the rest I hope its a bad attempt at sarcasm? If you are serious then I'd recommend writing a letter of complaint to your school and ask for a refund of your tuition. You're gonna need the funds to purchase more tinfoil hats

 

You just skiped my points and said same thing as in your previous comment so I just leave this here. No reason to try to explain this to you.

I do must say this: I did not mean nightmare people are invisible. If their guns can kill you by 1-2 shots you either dodge badly or have way too low hp for being in that hard match so you're too high on infamy or you are just at it's top for your gear, skill and boat mk so please stop saying it is unfair. Find better items, level up and wait or pay to skip this waiting time. All nightmare people has paid or waited so choose your way and get there without making an announcement about this how frustrating it is to get there.

And now when I have said this, I'll unwatch the thread and let it be. No reason to explain this over and over again for this "bad matchmaking" whiners. It is endless swamp so to speak.