Enforcer buff?

i have read a few fragments asking whether the Enforcer needs a buff? My opinion 100% yes. I would love to use that boat but the fact is it's slow, low hp and at mk 4 and below its a pretty easy target with only 2 red slots. Yes, I understand that the helmsman ultimately determines the success of a boat. I still think that with how unused the enforcer is it could use a little love.

 

Enforcer being underused probably doesn't have much to do with it's stats. It's probably a little more to do with the fact that boats are chosen early and switching isn't easy. Early, Enforcer is in the same boat, teehee, as Speeder, since both of them kind of suck at low-level. It doesn't have Shooter's firepower or Defender's HP, but it has 1 extra weapon slot compared to Speeder. You could say it's a choice between Shooter and Speeder, with Enforcer in the middle.

As time goes on, people stay on Shooter because it's more familiar and more powerful, or they glom onto Speeder because it's more popular and feels better. You could go Enforcer, but if you want more weapons, then Enforcer is a downgrade. You could go Enforcer, but if you were used to Speeder, it's going to feel slower and there's no indication from the community or otherwise that Enforcer is a good choice (and you probably checked Speeder first, since "Speed" sounds cooler and more fun). When I started the game, Speeder looked like complete trash and likely still does at that level. It has no HP, just 1 weapon, and can't move fast enough to evade anything. However, check the leaderboards, check Youtube, check the forums, and you make the assumption that Speeder must scale really well.

Forget the fact that every class scales really well, and compare that to Enforcer. Despite it's downsides, I can preach about how awesome Enforcer is all day, but there aren't a lot of other voices or signs to support me.

 

Well said, I got my shooter to mk3 then switched to a speeder bc at lower levels EVERYONE uses a shooter with a seldom defender here and there. So I switched and got my speed to mk4. I'm must have gotten spoiled cruising the map flanking ppl bc when I upg my enforcer to mk4 and tried using it I was like blah..... blah....... nope

 

At mk5 the enforcer has only 2 blue slot points thats fucking sad every other ship can equip at least a big shield plus something else but no enforcer cant thats fair right? enforcer needs a buff to speed bcuz its base speed is the same as defender which is stupid and a bit of extra health with the addition of that blue slot point

 

It trades that one blue point for one yellow point. It may not be able to use a Big Shield until Mk 6, but it can wield a double Tesla Shield at Mk 5. That's strictly an Enforcer privilege, Speeders only have 3 yellow points at Mk 5. Even at Mk 6, Enforcer is the only class that can wield multiple 2-point yellow items without dropping Overboost.

The problem is that the items Enforcer has a monopoly on, Tesla Shields and Frost Launchers, aren't amazing. Tesla Shield is useful but recently got nerfed hard and Frost Launchers are great at applying a status effect that the Enforcer itself can't really use. The two types of items that get a damage bonus on frozen enemies see most of their usage on their 2-point versions but Enforcers don't have the slots to be using Bigpedos and Bertas. While I might consider using a Ballpark or a Swift with a Frost Launcher, I'm pretty sure everyone would agree that a Flare-double-Blast would probably be a better option. The fact that it makes entire groups of enemies easier to hit is pointless, since I wasn't having that much trouble hitting non-Speeders.

Shields, though? Honestly, I've never considered my lack of a Big Shield to be an issue.

Edit: Just found an Epic Frost Launcher out of Star Crate soon after posting this. I guess I really will try that Ballpark+Launcher combo.

 

if you arent using enfos maneuverability and high turret speed to your advantage, youre doing wrong. buffing his speed would make speeder obsolete. their playstyles are supposed to be different.
fyi enfo has more yellow slots to make up for his lack of blue items, so his survivability is still high, if you are using him right.

 

I f%ck Shooters up with my Mk4 Enforcer! Just 2 blast them , then tesla bolt them...run on opposite side of their gun so they cant shoot me, rinse repeat. Lovin the Enforcer and tend to do more damage with my 2 Blast Cannons per match than the MK4 Shooters do with their 4 weapons lol

 

So on my mk4 should i use flare gun blast cuz omg to get that stuff its gonna take forever im using standard cannon and sniper

 

Enforcer is very good, it's just one of the boats that really require skill to be effective. I've seen a few people with MK4 enforcer who were like magicians, avoiding nearly all damage by moving back and forth and using tesla shield.

 

Well im not that good to be able to avoid all the shots but the thing that irritates me is even thew i only have 2 weapons i usually deal more damage than shooters that have 5 thats extremely sad

 

MK5enforcer here.
Well turbo and shield seem enough for me, with so many control avalaible, and 3 weapon i don t really see the problem (never played overboost /nitro so dont really care about the overboost nerf)
Why not for mk6 change blue slot (3 slot with 3 space), but will give 3 possibility for each (weapon, utility, support) so seem perhaps too powerful

 

It's not that sad, Shooter isn't that easy to play. Having more guns doesn't directly translate to doing more damage unless you survive and land all of your shots. Yellow ships are based around dodging and blocking enemy fire (taking no damage), and Defenders take less damage in general. Meanwhile, red ships are the first to get focused down because they're the most dangerous ships on the field and don't have any way of dodging outside of Turbos. Everyone, me included, will often skip every other ship type specifically to kill the Shooter, sometimes even above the Fixer. I rarely see a Shooter get a ton of damage off that wasn't either covered by a Fixer or Enforcer, or was last to die in the line of other Shooters on the team.

I don't play Shooter, but I respect their service.

 

I only play enforcer. With a splash of fixer if I need a quest done. I'm only MK4. I use the blast, ballpark and frost launcher at MK4 It's a solid build. But players get in close. Not much you can do but try and run. Recently changed to flare blast and tesla shield.

 

Think enforcer needs base movement speed equal to shooter... Overboost nerf was too brutal and enfos dont even have base speed like speeders...

 

i agree

 

all boat got at least 3 slot blue (standard is bandage/turbo/shield) except enforcer...

 

You already said, that would give Enforcer 9 slots, which would be too powerful. Fixer doesn't have 3 blue slots, either. Speeder doesn't have 3 red slots. Shooter and Defender don't have any yellow slots at all.

The turret speed, forward/backward acceleration, and the 5 yellow points make up for most of Enforcer's weaknesses. It just depends on what the player builds on it, and how afraid he is to go outside of standard builds. Any build that abuses Tesla Shields or Frost Launchers can't even be done on Speeder, such as:
- Double-Turbo, double-Tesla Shield, Overboost. Speeders have one less point, so while they can use two yellow Shields, they never do since they would need to drop Overboost/Nitro.
- Standard Shield, Big shield, double-Frost Launcher, Tesla Bolt.*
Meanwhile, you also have 3 guns while both of the other yellow-slot enabled classes only have 2.

@KilleWh4le
Like Lola said,

*I herd u liek freeze...

 

I like this thread very much mostly because i main enforcer but i think enforcer do need some love, the only time i have met another enforcer in battle is like 1 in every 10 games, plus as mention before some of the yellow items don't necessarily give advantages for the entire team (Overboost, Nitro ) Plus right now the bay is all shooters time to mix it up insted of have a all motar team
I am also posting this because this is the most enforcers on one team and that i was getting outhealed by the enemy defender and we would of lost but the time went out

 

oh i thought every other boat got 3 blue slot at MK6

you're true, enforcer get ton of possibility with yellow slot. It can be a full support really boring for other. And 3 weapon give the opportunity to have nearly non stop attack. mk5 enforcer is really pleasant to play... and when i switch to other ship i must admit that other boat are so slow with turret, movement, got the impress to have a static piece of wood.

 

im not saying enforcer should be as fast as speeders...
what I am saying is that enforcer should be moving about the same speed as shooter not defender!