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Scrap or upgrade then scrap...

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by DaveRay35, 12 Jul 2017.

  1. DaveRay35

    DaveRay35 Active Member

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    ive been scrapping all of the common and uncommon items ive been getting and im just wondering ... is this the best strategy?

    Should i be upgrading and evolving to t2 before scrapping - does this give a bigger return on investment?
     
  2. Totoro

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  3. behumble

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    if you need power cells sure! but you dont. especially not for uncommons and commons, rares can give epic cells but again, it depends on how often you are trying to evolve epics....I can do some experiments and post them later but I have done a few in the past and you lose a significant number of parts if you upgrade past level 3 (not teir 3!)
    However, upgrading to level 3 (not teir 3!) will give you positive investment (i only do it if im maxed on sugar), otherwise you lose parts. I think for uncommons and commons, things like pieces are completely random...i may be wrong @Miika However in my experience with rares if you evolve you get more puzzle pieces, but again lose a lot of parts...
    Ive been curious about this too
     
  4. Totoro

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    They discuss more than power cells in the post I linked. You have to read them of course. ;-)
     
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  5. behumble

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    good call totoro, just read the whole discussion, still didnt happen to answer about how the number of pieces you get changes as you evolve rare weapons. Pieces are random for uncommon and common, but not for rares and up, i dont really understand the system behind it. Also it doesnt tell you how many pieces you would lose if you were to get the minimum amount of parts. I suppose i could do a common experiment and figure that out though.
     
  6. Totoro

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    People would love you for it. But it would require a lot of sampling I suspect. The type and quantities appear somewhat random, which means you have to determine averages.
     
  7. LOLdude

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    I get a same amount of parts tho (common parts) or r u talking about rarer parts/pieces/cells
     
  8. behumble

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    if you scrap a lvl one common you get at least 45 common parts.
    to level it up
    1 -> 2 = 17 common parts
    2 -> 3 = 34
    3 -> 4 = 59
    4 -> 5 = 94
    5 -> 6 = 137
    6 -> 7 = 186
    7 -> 8 = 239
    8 -> 9 = 289
    9 -> 10 = 332
    That is a total of 1387 common parts to level up to 10!
    If i were to scrap it here, i am guaranteed 736 common parts or better, 1 common power cell or better, and chance of rare item or better.
    I scrapped and received 736 common parts and 2 common power cells
    That is a 651 part loss.
    That is all.
     
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  9. behumble

    behumble Well-Known Member

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    So from my inventory now, here is a few things regarding parts and pieces.
    1. teir 3 rare pulse scraps for 10 rare pieces
    2. epic teir 10 for 1 epic piece
    3. teir 3 uncommon for chance of one rare piece or better (whattttt)
    4. teir 2 rare for 5 rare pieces
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    A few things i am still wondering, how many cells do you lose evolving? As in if i were to evolve rare tier 1 to tier 2 how many cells would that cost? a maxed tier 2 rare will give you at least five cells. Either way i am not too worried about cells...not every day am i evolving epics or even rares haha. (that shiz takes time yo)
    Also, the number of pieces and cells remain the same no matter what level you are in your tier. The only thing that changes is the number of parts :)
    For examply, my lvl 20 rare cannon scraps for 1217 parts, but a lvl 11 napalm scraps for 414, and a lvl 14 scraps for 645, while a lvl 18 scraps for 1008 parts! I have absolutely no idea what the math is behind this.
    I will not be scrapping my tier 3 rare to see how many parts i would lose, but i guarantee the number would be huge lol.
    PS- i am a non paying player, so yes you can get far with not a dime spend :) super lucky to get the rare pulses though. waiting on literally any other rare healing item though.
     
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  10. disorder

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    Theres a video on youtube about scrap,
     
  11. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

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    Long term you will have more power cells than you can ever use (unless perhaps if you spend a ton of cash and never scrap items).

    You will also reach a point where you will be lacking both common and uncommon parts -- At some point you start using upwards to 1k of each pr item level. Once you reach that stage you will be happy for every part you have managed to store!

    If you are f2p and dreaming of epics it might be worth the pain to level epic items to 11 or 21.. Its expensive, but its the only way to increase item piece generation. 1 to 11 isnt that bad.

    Lvl1 = 1 pieces
    Lvl11= 5 pieces
    Lvl21= 10 pieces
     

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