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Balancing Changes on July 14th

Discussion in 'Announcements' started by Stebbi, 12 Jul 2017.

  1. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    I mean the 2nd build has been meta for awhile with the box...I personally still don't see it's losing the bonus of healing others but I've said this far too many times now lol. It does open up more builds just like the devs wanted I guess
     
  2. Joey who

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    Am I the only speeder not crying about a slight hp nerf
     
  3. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    Ok great the tape found a niche use on end game because those fixers have 2 weapons, they aren't as useless due to more firepower BUT for everyone else one weapon and dancing around isn't contributing as much. Might as well just stick to keeping your team alive.
     
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  4. *Rubber Duck*

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    Y nerf big torp? If u are paying attention u can dodge them like neo dodges bullets. If ur not paying attention then srry for ur luck
     
  5. D3X

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    It was, because they never looked at the Duct Tape as a viable alternative before the last patch. The box was just stuck in as a item to fill an available 1 Green slot, Filler. And to be honest, not essential to the actual build of the ship.
     
  6. Joey who

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    Because special teammates love to stand right next to you and make sure you never miss an enemy big torpedo
     
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  7. *Rubber Duck*

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    Nope, I think it was a needed nerf
     
  8. D3X

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    Like I said earlier, it's a higher level item where it finds it's use, not for the Mk1 - MK3 range.
    I see some MK5s using one good T4 or T5 Healing Pulse, Repair Box and Duct Tape, but most MK5s will go double Healing pulse.

    The duct tape is similar to the likes of a Carronade, or a Tesla shield. Players at low levels won't use this item simply because either low damage or expensive in terms of slot use.
     
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  9. Totoro

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    Instant heal for the fixer alone made box quite viable. We will see if that changes.
     
  10. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    My issue is that these buffs will think those in that range will think it's viable. We already have annoying duct tape users before that patch and this just promotes more
     
  11. Taevion0

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    I want ti add that repair pulse is popular bc of its reliability and multipurpose use (heal around ur boat and urself).

    Instead if tweaking cooldowns and dmg it would be great if you could change the way an item functions like make healing bolt heal everyone on its path

    Or make duct tape giv u a healing bonus for 10 sec etc.

    Make the tesla shield explode and dealing dmg to nearby foes...

    What im trying to say is that would make the items more interesring when u add more purpose to it...

    I hate duct tape, its so boring, u heal urself. And thats it... these boats hav limited slot as it is... and for such a uncreative item ti exist in such a well thot out game is tragic
     
  12. mprovie

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    Duct tape: clearly needed, and probably not enough. Doesn't it current heal as an active ability as much as a bandage that is passive?

    Repair bolt: CLEARLY needed. Changing it to 1 slot and upping the healing will make the repair pulse nerf easier to deal with. Unfortunately the fixers at the top level still have 5 points and 3 slots which encourage double pulse still. I'd like to see fixers get 4 points with 3 (or 5 and 4) slots and reverse that ugly repair pulse change where it affects you less so there is some choice and variety in fixer loadouts.

    Speeder hp: Not sure why players are saying it is bad for low mks, the nerf doesn't affect anyone mk3 or lower. -100 hp at mk 4 isn't huge. Speeder gets tons of blue slots and points to have as much hp as they would like. You will have to choose between shields and the other blue items a bit more. Speeders running double turbo will feel the pain, or switch to a standard shield which will EASILY compensate for the change.

    Frost launcher, I have never seen this used. A buff was obviously in order.

    Missiles, I haven't used this so no comment.

    I would also like to see a nerf to the tesla stun duration. To make the tesla bolt still usable with a shorter stun, maybe have it debuff the target to take 5-10% more damage while stunned.
     
  13. Zotah

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    Everybody has sniper canon... it is overused.
     
  14. jutaro_eliteLOL

    jutaro_eliteLOL New Member

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    I think every point you've made on healing items are superficial and basically sound like ignorant guesswork from someone with not enough experience with those items or with fixing at a level above mark 2.
     
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    I honestly can't believe it. Out of ALL the wepons in need of a nerf, missile launcher? This has been probably adressed before but whatever. Missile launcher is probably the most underused weapon under 2700 infamy. This just goes to show that yet again they ignore the major population for the %1. Honestly dissapointed. Nothing on the big torpedo splash damage, let's better nerf an item that's OP for 2% of people, rather than the one that's OP for the large majority.

    EDIT: You did the same last patch, where you said the problem is double pulses yet you nerfed all the fixers (instead of making it so when you have 2 of them, they just heal you 50% each)
     
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  16. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    Your post is basically ignorant and made with assumptions as well :)
     
  17. D3X

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    There's no medication for stupidity. So you'll always see suiciding speeders, defenders that camp, shooters with all mortars, newb fixers with duct tape, enforcers that tesla stun someone first then shoot... There are more issues to be concerned about.

    There's a reason why duct tape is in the game and why it's getting even more love after next patch.
     
  18. jutaro_eliteLOL

    jutaro_eliteLOL New Member

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    But not incorrect. :);):(
     
  19. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    Uh sure, yea let's go with that. :)
     
  20. Ian

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    To those crying about being far too fragile as a mk4-mk5 speeder, just stop. 100-250 hp (from %) is not going to break you, & the main nerf was the 10% -> 4% but that is at level 29.
    (Coming from a mk4 speeder)
     
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