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Intentionally loosing

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Alpha ., 28 Jun 2017.

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  1. SleazyP.Martini

    SleazyP.Martini New Member

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    Low infamy is automatically intentionally losing? I play pretty recklessly. My infamy is quite low for mk5 ships. I mean, I hope there are other metrics (other than w/l and infamy) the admins use to determine a player is starting the battle and leaving the battle right away. Cuz this essentially bans unskilled players. Or players like me that have our own play style.
     
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  2. D3X

    D3X Well-Known Member

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    There's an entire thread dedicated to this topic, one of the most talked about subjects.

    https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/infamy-manipulation-spoils-the-fun-for-most.36/

    Thanks.

    Try not to burn and crucify Lizzie here, she's doing it for a reason she thinks it's right, and let's be frank. Dropping infamy is actually easy and allows your account to grow faster. Infact, I have tried this method myself and it was very profitable(almost two-fold), but due to reasons we all talk about, it's just not respectful to the teammates you play with. These players are apart of the of Battle Bay Community, I realized that it would not be best for my visible reputation to do this. So I stopped after one session(this was months ago). I was the one that uncovered and exposed why it's profitable in the hopes of Rovio fixing the problem. Banning players is not the solution. It's a very reactive and late solution that does not fix the problem itself, rather it removes player base and creates situations like player shaming and other unproductive and negative aspects to the game.

    Rovio, please fix the problem with a proactive solution! If Patch 2.3's infamy tanking fix is a "reporting" system, then I would roll it back.
     
  3. Helius Maximus

    Helius Maximus Active Member

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    I'm not defending her or anything, just speaking from my own experience. I recently fell from 3.3k to 2.6k because of the fixer quests and took me a while to get back again to 3.3k. In the process I fleet up with some buddies around 2.2k infamy, and that doesn't mean I was intentinaly tanking infamy, I was just having fun with a fellow battler.

    I think it is not right to crucify someone over and over again for past actions. Like I said, I think she learned her lesson, I still have faith in the human race.

    And you are right about the system, while that loop hole remain unchanged, there will be people willing to exploit it and we will be seeing again and again this kind of posts. Hope that with the upcomong update some of this issues gets resolved.

    Cheers!
     
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  4. D3X

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    Right, but 1000 infamy for 4-5 days when she's normally at 2800-3000? Just putting it out there...
     
  5. SleazyP.Martini

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    Also consider this: if you switch ships, and you aren't good at that ship, are you expected to learn mk1 fixer at nightmare league? what if you want to practice with a different weapon configuration? Are you ex[ected to learn in tha same range of your highest infamy? That don't make no cents. Dropping infamy is not necessarily a sinister thing.
     
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  6. Alpha .

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    You're spewing nonsense, please stop talking and educate yourself, otherwise you're making yourself look ignorant.
     
  7. SleazyP.Martini

    SleazyP.Martini New Member

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    Just because you don't agree with me, or I don't agree with you doesn't mean you need to insult. You clearly are not open to other possibilities.
     
  8. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    How about reading the context and other posts supporting his claim instead of sprouting random what if this and that???
     
  9. SleazyP.Martini

    SleazyP.Martini New Member

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    I did. Part of the issue is that she's been at low infamy for several days and hasn't moved up after the ban. I don't know how to play fixer. But I have a mk5 fixer. I get goals to heal x amount of damage. I usually end up losing 10 battles before I complete it. There are other reasons for what you guys are explaining.
     
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  10. Zangetsu

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    Again context; this is about her situation and not yours. Just because you can't doesn't mean the same applies to her.

    She's been low infamy DAYS after her ban, this is plenty of time to climb up again and do you have evidence she's even trying out new ships? As far as I'm aware all the screenshots shows her using the same ships she's always been using. Making up scenarios of what is causing her to remain low doesn't outweigh real claims against her actions, such as this post claiming she's been suiciding in this particular game. This isn't hard to believe as you already acknowledge she's been banned and for what? OH YEA INFAMY TANKING which she's still doing.
     
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  11. SleazyP.Martini

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    The very first sentence from op: "Okay I've created this account just so I have a viable way of reporting someone since there is no way to do so in-game." nuff sed
     
  12. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    It's like reasoning with a rock.
     
  13. SleazyP.Martini

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    what? It sounds to me that he created this thread to keep tabs on people in general losing on purpose. Not specifically the person we are now talking about. The second poster also thought this as you can see from his reply.
     
  14. Zangetsu

    Zangetsu Well-Known Member

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    Are you just selective in what you want to read? Or do you lack reading comprehension? He said he made it to report SOMEONE aka the person in the screenshot because he can't ingame. IT IS SPECIFICALLY THE PERSON WE ARE TALKING ABOUT
     
  15. SleazyP.Martini

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    You know, that really can read two ways. But I do see what you are saying. But if you feel like you are reasoning with a rock, then perhaps you should evaluate why you are in fact trying to reason with a rock.
     
  16. D3X

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    Neither are the issue guys.

    Even if you get her banned, she'll be back at it again after the temporary ban is lifted. There isn't anything positive out of doing this. so stop arguing about unimportant aspects and focus more on the issue. The issue isn't the act of dropping, everyone should be allowed to do whatever they want in the game per say, but what should be added are counter systems that devalue or compensate for the difference in infamy.
     
  17. lolawola

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    on topic. the screen doesnt really show much. just OP with lizzie camping in the back while everyone is fighting.
    if you look closely, shes using an enforcer with 1800 hp (mk3?), so definitely not her main and appropriate for her current infamy level. idk and idc why she decided not to push anymore. i mean why would anyone try to with the current reward system, and useless and expensive shop. personally i dont blame her. but these kind of topics with accusations and storytelling without a hard proof are gonna lead only to speculations and flaming between members...
     
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  18. Alpha .

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    I was unaware of what I'm supost to do to have sufficient evidence, since I tought just the shere FACT she is ace league with 1000 infamy should be eunogh. I guess it isn't.
    Her reasoning for being this low is "hurr durr new update" - that didn't even come up yet, not only that.. She faked bad english, (you can compare it to her other replies) so it would look like she had a good explanation but she can't phrase it but the reality is she really dosen't have one.
     
  19. Wishaal

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    If you look at the other topics and the comments of that accused infamy tanker it should be pretty obvious that she is indeed an infamy tanking noob.

    To the guys who are defending her or trying to justify her, you're probably infamy tankers too
     
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  20. Helius Maximus

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    Negative, my reputation is important to me, so don't put all in the same bag.

    The only important thing you said is "probably", and the same applies to her, therefore I choose in this case to give her the benefit of the doubt. In other cases her crime was well proved and documented, and she got punished. I don't know how much time she has being playing on the past few days after she got unbaned, but it may or may not be enough to get her back to the corresponding infamy, we just don't know.

    The thing is that you are all crucifying the girl, but the system is the one that is broken. So, if she is actually tanking again, then the admins should have a way to confirm that and if so, they should perma-ban her. Otherwise, it is just speculation.

    Cheers!
     
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