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TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

Hey, everyone! This thread is for you to tell me what you want me to write a guide on! So go ahead, you only need to ask!

Redneck Messiah · 24 Nov 2018

write a guide on writing guides

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Redneck Messiah · 24 Nov 2018

But on a more serious note, I'd like to see your take on shooter loadouts specializing in short, medium, and long range combat!

TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

Redneck Messiah said: ↑

But on a more serious note, I'd like to see your take on shooter loadouts specializing in short, medium, and long range combat!
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Personally, I'd say, @yellowocean has a GREAT guide on shooter building
Edit: Here it is(will post after this message)

TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

yellowocean said: ↑

[GAMEPLAY TIPS 02]: SHOOTER

*Disclaimer: this is strictly a fan-made guide, in this case, mine. All discussion points are derived from my neurological perspective so feel free to disagree but please keep things in the proper context. So here we go...

The shooter, the first boat everyone uses and for some, the last boat that they'll ever play with. This sluggish boat painted in a not so subtle shade of red that's screaming "shoot me, shoot me". Yes, the most popular target in the bay, But for what it lacks in mobility, it more than makes up for in firepower. with it's ability to equip a maximum of 5 weapons, it outshines all the other boats in the damage department by at least 2 weapon slots. This boat does not carry yellow or green items so a player must rely on smart weapon usage for offensive combinations. For its defensive capabilities, the shooter has the 2nd highest (next to defender) base defense/armor rating and its ability to equip a decent amount of blue items will help it stay afloat long enough to inflict a lot of hurt on unfriends. The shooter is also the only boat, in my opinion, that can effectively equip any combination of all 19 available weapons.

Essentials:

Turbo - this should be the 1st item on your list that you should seriously invest in right away. As a minimum, try to get your hands on a rare right away, an epic would be best, you won't need legendaries for this one. a level 41 or 42 epic turbo with epic turbo perks can max out your shooter speed on all MK levels. At lower levels, one might argue that HP buffs are better, however, without a decent turbo, your shooter will be extremely vulnerable to mortar fire and AOE incendiaries. And with the absurd number of frost users nowadays, having a turbo is even more crucial to your shooter's longevity.

Big shield - it is never too early to start building one. Again, if you can't get a hold of epics or legendaries, rares should be the minimum. Keep watch for the shield HP perks, you're definitely going to need it.

Crew members: bhurt, mortimer, sinklair, bhurnice, blastian - determine what your primary damage dealer will be and prioritize the corresponding crew member for that item. Take note that bhurt and mortimer have some nice shooter HP upgrades in their skill trees.

brock and swift - you have to allot time for training these two... you'll need them both at par with your captain level to keep upgrading your turbo and shields. Swift also has some nice all-boat speed upgrades you will be needing.

Shooter Types: with the multitude of weapon combinations you can use on your shooter, you have to take note of one key word when building your shooter - versatility. Offensive versatility is very important for any shooter, equip too many mortars and you will be easy pickings for rush attacks. equip too may incendiaries and you might be sunk way before your enemy burns to death. using all cannons might be effective in some cases but it defeats the purpose of shooters as whole. My take on versatility is for my shooter to have a balanced loadout - at least 1 weapon that goes over (mortars, missiles, mines), at least 1 weapon that goes under (torpedoes) and at least 2 weapons that go straight (cannons, railgun, flare gun). Don't be afraid to experiment with different combinations, the most important thing is to determine what works best for you and your style of play. Bear in mind that the shooter's main role is to deal damage, lots of it. if you are not effective in doing so, then you are not doing your job as a shooter. unlike speeders/enforcer/fixers who can influence battles without dealing that much damage all the time, shooters are basically useless if they can't deal adequate amounts of damage (adequate meaning within the average damage of all 10 players involved in the battle).

Precision Shooter - aka marksman. This type of shooter is distinguished by two weapons - the sniper cannon and the railgun. This shooter excels in dealing massive burst damage to a single target. Players using this setup should be proficient in long distance shooting, meaning a steady right thumb or in my case, a steady right index finger. this type should be able to deal effective and accurate damage from 35 distance and up, all its weapons should have that minimum range.

Recommended red items: sniper cannon, rail gun (mandatory), long range mortar, missile launcher, torpedoes, fire bomb (with range perks)

Recommended blue items: shields, bandage, gear lube

Playing as a Precision shooter:

keep your distance, as i have mentioned above, all your weapons must have long range capabilities (35 distance and up). this doesn't mean you will be camping and hiding. you will need to maintain direct visual contact with your target to be effective, but keeping your distance means you have lower chances of being hit in return.

if you have more than 50% HP, keep yourself visible to the enemy to gain attention, your allies will quickly be focused-fired on if you keep yourself too far or hidden from the enemies' view, allowing yourself to be seen gives the enemy group another target to fire upon and lowers the chances of them focusing on a single ally.

take note of your allies who went ahead, take advantage of their position and visual range, this will allow you to fire your shots without being seen immediately (very useful at the start of battles). your weapon range goes farther than your visual range, keep that in mind when you have allies who like to scout ahead.

as with your role's namesake, precision is key to your game, so as much as possilbe, stick to one target and try to blast them to oblivion as quickly as you can. however, always keep an eye out for other targets that are at the brink of sinking. teamwork is always important so try to support your teammates efforts specially if a target has been marked.

in the case of rush attacks or enemies trying to get close to you, have your escape route ready for a tactical retreat and ready your point-damage weapons to ward off your attacker.

try to keep a wall or any obstruction near you where you can retreat to if needed, to take cover if you find yourself being focused on.

be proficient with the lock function, locking on to targets will help you avoid last sec distractions and maintain your fire on your target.

Playing with precision shooters:

assist your marksmen with visual range if you can. they will tend to stay back so it is up to you to scout for targets or lure them into your marksman's range.

call out targets, if your marksman is good, he/she will follow your lead and focus on that target.

precision shooters (if built properly) should be quite proficient in defending themselves from a single rusher, multiple attackers will however mostly like spell doom for your marksman, be ready to help when needed.

Best counters:

as with actual warfare, best counter to snipers is another sniper. it will come down to who is more accurate.

in the absence of a counter sniper, raining fire on a precision shooter is a good way to keep it scrambling and make its shots less accurate.

rushing them would also be a good tactic, but not alone, good marksmen can handle a single rusher quite well.

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JoshW · 24 Nov 2018

TheAntiSnipe said: ↑

Hey, everyone! This thread is for you to tell me what you want me to write a guide on! So go ahead, you only need to ask!
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You should do one on dodging. The tips you gave me in custom helped a lot and I'm sure others could benefit from that wisdom as well.

TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

yellowocean said: ↑

continued... Gameplay Tips 02: shooter

Mortar Shooter - aka the bombardier. This type is defined by its ability to deal continuous splash damage on enemy formations. Bombardiers will likely carry 2 mortars and at the most 3 mortars. i can not recommend more than 3 mortars as this will severely limit your ability defend yourself from rush attacks. This is the most specialized shooter and as such, must play its part effectively to be a factor in any match. Frost users will love having them around but it will most likely be a love-hate relationship with stun users since the constant splash damage will most often unintentionally cancel your stuns prematurely. Despite their inherent flaws, bombardiers are very dangerous against slow moving targets (shooters/defenders/fixers) as well as the best deterrent against clustered formations (fixer-centric formations). The best place for a mortar shooter is at the back of the team, providing a continuous barrage against unfriends.

essentials:

mortimer - if you love mortars, make sure mortimer is always trained to the max. you have to choose between ballpark and long range mortar though since their upgrades conflict a lot on mortimer's skill tree. take note that big berta is the only 2 slot mortar and has the longest projectile flight time, it needs a setup combo to be more effective, i'd recommend the ballpark to combo with the berta. long range mortar is the most accurate due to its ability to increase its projectile speed. The standard mortar is best for harassing unfriends due to its quick cooldown.

increase area damage skill - maximize this skill as much as possible, this skill improves splash damage and makes non-bullseye hits more effective.

range perks - you'll need to keep a safe distance while firing your mortars, at least 1 epic range perk on each of your mortars can make a big difference

mortar frost damage perk - very useful if you like to fleet with frost users

recommended red items: standard, ballpark, long range and big berta mortars (mandatory), you have to have at least 2 of these 3 weapons, high level standard cannon (for close combat), sniper/blast cannon, explosive cannon

recommended blue items: shield, bandage, gear lube

playing as a bombardier:

as with the marksman, it is best to keep yourself at the back of the formation, use your scouts to determine enemy movement and fire your mortars accordingly.

as we all know, mortars are just bad against speeders and fast enforcers, so as a mortar shooter, your primary targets are fellow shooters and defenders.

combo-ing your mortars: if you have a berta with you, it is always best to use it 2nd or last (if you have triple mortar setup). the opening mortar shot will most likely be avoided and depending on where your enemies go, your 2nd mortar shot should be able to connect. Leading your shots properly is a skill acquired through practice and familiarity with your weapons so just keep practicing. use your first shot to halt their movement and anticipate their next move to setup your 2nd mortar. remember that shooters and defenders don't accelerate fast so making them stop on the 1st shot will increase the chances for you to hit them for a more damaging shot on the 2nd one.

if you have teammates with frost, make sure to support these teammates and focus on their targets as well.

stay within "help distance" from your yellow teammates in case an enemy tries to rush you, having a friendly yellow boat nearby will increase your chances of surviving a rush attack.

playing with a bombardier:

try to box your unfriends into a tight formation so your bombardier can work their magic.

if you have frost items, call out your targets so your bombardier will know which one you are targetting

mortar shooters will tend to stay back, if they have long range capabilities, give them a good vantage point by scouting for them. always remember that they can see what you see (at least on radar)

keep an eye on your bombardier and be ready to assist if an enemy gets close to them, they are very weak against rush attacks.

best counter

rush attacks are best to eliminate bombardiers, just watch out for their teammates who might be nearby

tesla shields - the bane of all parabolic weapons, even the mighty berta is rendered useless against this counter.

speed and nitro - good speed and decent map awareness is all you need to avoid these aerial bombs, and if your frozen, a well-timed nitro will leave you relatively unscathed.

Assault Shooter - aka. brawler. This type of shooter is characterized by its sheer brutality in the mid to close range game. Armed with blast and explosive cannons, they can deal massive damage in a short amount of time. Brawlers typically press the attack and should slowly close the gap to finish of its targets. Shooter players who prefer the mid range game should love this setup and must prioritize HP boosts through shields and/or max out bandages to keep the fight going for a while longer. Brawlers usually don't survive a battle, but if effective, they would have taken out 1 or 2 boats and leave a 3rd hanging on to dear life before they are neutralized. to increase their deadliness in battle, it would also be good to equip a flare gun or a firebomb as your opening move. if a precision shooter does well to keep at least 30 distance from its enemies, the brawler thrives within 30 distance with its hard hitting mid-range guns.

essentials

Bhurt - you'll need to get this crew up to speed as quickly as possible to unlock the damage skills for explosive cannon (the signature weapon of a brawler)

Brock/mortimer/feelix - maximize HP and shield boosts skills from this 3 crew members, you'll need every HP you can get.

Explosive cannon / blast cannon - you'll need these 2 cannons to be an effective brawler

recommended red items: explosive cannon, blast cannon (mandatory), sniper cannon, missile launcher, big torpedo, firebomb, flare gun, carronade

recommended blue items: big shield, standard shield, bandage

Playing as an Assault Shooter:

equip at least one long range weapon (missile launcher or firebomb) as your approach weapon, you can also equip a sniper cannon to do this.

if you have aggressive yellow teammates, follow their lead and focus on the nearest available target.

if you have incendiaries, use them as your opening move to "tag" your target with burn damage and pound them with your explosive cannons and/or blast cannons

a big torpedo can perfectly complement a brawler's play style since they are fairly accurate at midrange and deal massive damage. (note that you have to sacrifice a little damage to upgrade your big torp speed with torp speed perks - get it to at least about the same speed as triple torpedoes [around 4.1-4.3])

your mindset should be to deal as much damage as possible, as quickly as possible - thus, if you have sunk at least 1 boat and dealt huge damage to at least 2 boats, then you have done your job and hope your teammates have also come to play.

in an all shooter/defender formation, assault shooters should dictate the pace and press the attack. if a defender is on your team, make sure to attack together with the defender(s).

given the opportunity, you should always try to take out fixers first, speeders/enforcers should also be taken out at every chance.

Playing with Assault shooters:

if you're a speeder/enforcer, try to attack together with your brawler, their firepower with your debuffing abilites can quickly take out a target. they need to close the distance and are vulnerable to flanking maneuvers, intercept those flankers and give your brawler the window to finish off its target.

if you're a defender, attack together with your brawler, rush/blitz tactics are the best moves for this teamup.

if you're a fixer, repair bolt would be the most recommended fixer item for you, you can't follow brawlers closely so you'll need to be able to heal them from a safe distance.

generally speaking, brawlers tend to plunge head on into battle, it is best to support their attack and focus fire on their targets.

Best counter(s):

focus fire - blast them as soon as you see them, the sooner they fall the better, their firepower is too dangerous to ignore.

keep your distance - most brawlers will only have 1 or 2 long range weapons, keeping your distance while chipping away at their HP will render them ineffective.

stun/frost - always a good way to slow their advance. properly coordinated stun locks on brawlers will frustrate them to no end and will most likely cause them to attack recklessly.

defenders - a strong defender can face down any opponent, even the strongest brawler is no match for a powerful defender.

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TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

yellowocean said: ↑

Notable shooter weapon setups:

firebomb, firebomb, railgun, sniper, sniper - absolutely a pain to deal with, if you don't take them out fast, they can quickly chip away at your team's HP levels.

sniper, sniper, railgun, missile, big torpedo - long range beast and still deadly in close range combat.

railgun, sniper, napalm, missile, mine - offense and defense, with decent map control abilites

explosive cannon, explosive cannon, firebomb, sniper, standard cannon - burning damage combo at its finest

missile, missile, explosive cannon, sniper, carronade - a clever mix of long and short range explosive power

long range mortar, big berta, triple torpedo, sniper, explosive cannon - splash damage extraordinaire

not recommended setups

all mortars - even a weak speeder can destroy you without suffering a single scratch, even a mine wielding mk5 fixer can beat this setup

all torpedoes - spamming torpedoes is fun but it really doesn't really give much success in the long run, and again, you are helpless in close range

all mines - don't... just don't...

all napalms/firebombs - like all mortars, effective for a time, but again, you are very vulnerable up close.

all cannons - for the lower MKs, this is viable, but as soon as you get your 4th weapon slot, it just takes away your versatility in dealing with different situations if you only have cannons with you

Camping: when is camping good and when is it bad?

Camping is part of a shooter's strategy, they are natural campers. But there is a very clear distinction between a good camper and a useless camper.

Camping effectively:

if you are a lower level shooter (mk4/5) who is suddenly thrust into a battle between mk6/mk7s, your most viable choice is to camp, meaning to hide from direct line of fire and try to contribute with whatever is in your ship's capabilities. however, staying far behind your team will actually add more to your team's handicap. your best move in this situation is to stay at the back of the formation but follow your strongest teammate (shooter/defender) and back them up with your weapons. Be aware of where your enemies are and adjust your position accordingly, you should always keep your best tank between you and your enemies. if you see an enemy trying to circle around for a flanking approach, call it out and adjust your position accordingly, don't try to take it out by yourself unless you know for sure you can.

if you're a siege or mortar shooter, you will most likely camp a lot in battles but to do so effectively means that your distance from your enemies must still be within range of your weapons and you should have a decent angle of visibility to be able to make good lead shots. if you're positioned behind walls, make sure your teammates are providing visibility on your enemies otherwise you will just be firing blindly.

if you're teammates are taking a beating, try to get yourself visible and draw some fire to try to buy your teammates some time to escape or recover. don't keep on hiding behind a wall and let your teammates die 1 by 1.

bad camping:

hiding somewhere and just spamming your mortars/bombs/torpedoes without any intelligible effort in finding your target

hiding somewhere at all times even when you see your teammates getting damaged badly while you still have 100% HP.

hiding somewhere where you can't use at least half of your arsenal effectively.

hiding somewhere and just planting mine fields

hiding somewhere until you find yourself all alone and so separated from your team that you can't do anything to help them and they can't do anything to help you.

So that's that for shooter... did i miss anything? please let me know what you think... 'til next time
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TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

JoshW said: ↑

You should do one on dodging. The tips you gave me in custom helped a lot and I'm sure others could benefit from that wisdom as well.
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So, here's the deal. The thing with dodging tips is, everyone takes to them differently. A ranger will need a close-to-completely different set of dodging skills compared to, say, a duelist or a trapper speeder. Making a comprehensive guide will be very, VERY difficult, even with the color coding and everything. But... I'll try.

JoshW · 24 Nov 2018

TheAntiSnipe said: ↑

So, here's the deal. The thing with dodging tips is, everyone takes to them differently. A ranger will need a close-to-completely different set of dodging skills compared to, say, a duelist or a trapper speeder. Making a comprehensive guide will be very, VERY difficult, even with the color coding and everything. But... I'll try.
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Honestly even a basic guide would be super helpful to some. I was hanging out in global chat today and some new players asked if I could help them out. I did the best I could but I'm a terrible teacher lol. That being said, some of the basic stuff I showed them just blew their minds lol.

Nikkie! · 24 Nov 2018

TheAntiSnipe said: ↑

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If it took me already 8 minutes and 10 seconds while not understanding more than 30% of it, how many hours was he busy writing this?
Damn...

TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

JoshW said: ↑

Honestly even a basic guide would be super helpful to some. I was hanging out in global chat today and some new players asked if I could help them out. I did the best I could but I'm a terrible teacher lol. That being said, some of the basic stuff I showed them just blew their minds lol.
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I basically have a very real issue, I like to cover 100% of something. Aiming is not something that can be easily sectioned, but as I said, I could color code everything. Also, that's the real fun part of teaching, keep at it!

Nikkie! said: ↑

If it took me already 8 minutes and 10 seconds while not understanding more than 30% of it, how many hours was he busy writing this?
Damn...
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Yellowocean is the real legend when it comes to writing strat threads, I kid you not. Check out the thread that I quoted this from, it'll blow your mind!

Agile Vanguard · 24 Nov 2018

What about a capture the flag guide for ships?

Nikkie! · 24 Nov 2018

Agile Vanguard said: ↑

What about a capture the flag guide for ships?
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Pick up your speeder, run to the capture, stay alive and capture

Nikkie! · 24 Nov 2018

Btw @TheAntiSnipe, why did you change your ign back?
I saw it yesterday after a win with 2 of your retirement mates

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I’ll explain myself (as far as I can)
Your guild tag is -AOW- maybe not litteraly this, but at least with AOW...

“AOW is a basic pension from the national government. You receive AOW from your state pension age until your death.”

This was at the Rijksoverheids web page

TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

Nikkie! said: ↑

Btw @TheAntiSnipe, why did you change your ign back?
I saw it yesterday after a win with 2 of your retirement mates

edit:
I’ll explain myself (as far as I can)
Your guild tag is -AOW- maybe not litteraly this, but at least with AOW...

“AOW is a basic pension from the national government. You receive AOW from your state pension age until your death.”

This was at the Rijksoverheids web page
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The guild name is Art of War(tag [-AOW-]). It's a reference to the book "The Art of War" by the author Sun Tzu.

The Otherguy · 24 Nov 2018

Agile Vanguard said: ↑

What about a capture the flag guide for ships?
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I second this. Who should defend, who should capture, who should escort, when should you value defence over offence, and visa versa, etc

TheAntiSnipe · 24 Nov 2018

The Otherguy said: ↑

I second this. Who should defend, who should capture, who should escort, when should you value defence over offence, and visa versa, etc
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Oh dear xD I KNEW this would come up. It's been knocking around my head for a while. CTF has its own ins and outs, it's basically a whole new game, so to speak. There's plays, counterplays, stuff you can ALWAYS do, stuff you can only do with fleetmates, experimental stuff... *sigh*

Just yesterday, I learned a whole new technique. The "chasing defensive vanguard". I guard our flag, and if it's taken, I chase the carrier, go to their base, kill them, take their flag and reverse the offensive.

I think we need to let the mode nature a little bit, I'm not completely sure of myself here lol.

JoshW · 26 Nov 2018

A guide with brief explanations of different playstyles would definitely be helpful.
Something of a reference sheet to show people who are undecided on a playstyles.
For example, I have no clue what the difference between a duelist and a brawler is lol.
I'm sure the majority of the players on the Bay would be confused when these terms are thrown around.

TheAntiSnipe · 26 Nov 2018

JoshW said: ↑

A guide with brief explanations of different playstyles would definitely be helpful.
Something of a reference sheet to show people who are undecided on a playstyles.
For example, I have no clue what the difference between a duelist and a brawler is lol.
I'm sure the majority of the players on the Bay would be confused when these terms are thrown around.
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Okay, I'll do that. "Introduction to basic playstyles" does have a nice ring to it, and I'm 100% sure I'm qualified to write on that(I have played every single style in the game hehe)

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