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fixers getting unfair stars.

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by andrew tanswell, 28 Aug 2018.

  1. andrew tanswell

    andrew tanswell New Member

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    i believe both those efforts deserve more than 1 star thoughts ? Screenshot_20180827-165404_Battle Bay.jpg Screenshot_20180828-020259_Battle Bay.jpg
     
    andrew tanswell, 28 Aug 2018
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  2. YerJokinArnYer

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    I’d agree.
    The system seem so to be pushing fixers to (if they want more stars) use fire weapons, and deal more damage themselves.
    Miika has said that there is room for improvement in the star system for fixers, and has asked for players to make their suggestions for a better way of doing things - so far I haven’t seen many players giving alternative solutions.

    The only thing I would say is that the rewards for ‘cashing in’ stars are very poor so you’re not missing out too much in ‘ranked’ though this does have a bigger impact in events.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 28 Aug 2018
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  3. andrew tanswell

    andrew tanswell New Member

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    i agree rewards are poor but yes pushing fixers to be selfish isnt what we want.
     
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  4. Mr. Patel

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    Why 1 star can anyone explain??????
     
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  5. YerJokinArnYer

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    Ok, here’s how the fixer contribution system works as I understand it. (This may not be a perfect understanding, but it is my understanding)

    Obviously damage you deal gets dealt with the same as anyone else’s damage.
    The contribution of healing that you do varies from person to person. Healing that you do to the person that deals the most damage carries the most weight, and if you heal someone who does no damage, that will get no weight. In effect, you get a part of the contribution rate of the player you heal.

    That’s roughly what we currently have. Over to you guys to devise a better system.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 28 Aug 2018
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  6. Baronair

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    Would having a star score from 0-10 rather than 0-3 make any difference? I found the last event quite good for fixers (from 0-10) and i wonder if it's an accuracy thing. I don't know. Did the last event work on different stats?
     
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  7. Mimmel

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    I can confirm with the coins in the last event. I received 10 coins often as being a fixer. They should just apply the same algorithm for the stars.
     
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  8. Miathan

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    OK, so here's a (rather obvious) solution:

    Miika said that the reason fixers get less stars on average is that the balancing parameter is contribution, rather than stars, because contribution matters for gold and sugar rewards, and making sure every ship type gets the same average gold and sugar rewards is more important than stars. So the solution is: balance both, rather than one. Make the star conditions ship specific, rather than general, and relax them slightly for fixers, until they have the same star gains as other ships.

    This does not fix the fact that the system is very bad at determining when a fixer should get stars, there would still be perceived randomness. But the average rewards are definitely fixable.

    Edit:

    We have also given the devs multiple solutions for the randomness thing, they just didn't like any of them.
     
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  9. Fish

    Fish Well-Known Member

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    Maybe a small point for most people, but xp from battles is based on stars earned - so by earning less stars, fixers earn less xp and level up slower than players using other boats. This can be significant for people who play a lot of battles if they are wanting to move up in captain level.
     
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  10. ●H€ll-Blad€●

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    A friendly fixer will try to heal every teammate equally.he/shecannot discriminate between teammates.how they will know who will do most damage.Every healing should weight equal.
     
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  11. Ash KOT

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    I agree all healing should be equal.
    With shooters they don't lose stars for damaging the floaters at the enemies spawn whilst their team mates get shredded in the middle of the map.
     
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  12. Fish

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    What if you heal another fixer back from the brink of destruction and that fixer goes on to heal the top scoring player - that should count for something too, right? :)
     
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  13. JhonnyNS

    JhonnyNS Active Member

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    For me is normal...

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    JhonnyNS, 29 Aug 2018
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  14. Fish

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  15. JhonnyNS

    JhonnyNS Active Member

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    Whats your nickname on bay?
     
    JhonnyNS, 29 Aug 2018
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  16. Fish

    Fish Well-Known Member

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    My in-game name is SS Minnow_
     
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