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What Would P0rthos Do?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by YerJokinArnYer, 20 Aug 2018.

  1. YerJokinArnYer

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    I have recently become frustrated by (what I perceive to be) a negative cloud that has spread over the forum of late. There are many duplicate threads along the lines of ‘nerf this’ or ‘this is so unfair’.

    I have no problem with players being unhappy with certain aspects of the game, and everyone has the right to express that. But complaining about things should just be the start of the conversation. It should then develop into, “ok, so how do we fix or counter that”. We know that Devs cannot click their fingers and an issue is rectified as any fixes and balancing require updates and take time.

    My thoughts then turned to P0rthos. I believe he is held in such high regard because he helped develop solutions to problems. The big issues he dealt with were how to use the various weapons and ships. He shared his knowledge to help all.
    And I wondered how would he deal with some of the issues we face today?
    For example - double bubble. Would he join in the chorus of voices asking for a nerf? More likely, he would make a video showing tactics and weapons to counter them.
    Event matchmaking being unfair? He’d create a video showing what tactics work for each event.

    Whilst we may not have the video creation skills of P0rthos, that doesn’t stop us from being more like P0rthos. We can create (or add to) threads giving advice, such as those created by @Help I Cant Swim for each event.
    Rather than posting a screenshot of a match we don’t think was fair, we could post the battle id and ask “Given that this match looked unfair from the start, what could I have done differently?”
    Being a member of this forum should give us all a competitive advantage in the game as we could all be sharing advice and tactics. We could be learning from each other, and creating a forum which is invaluable if you want to improve your skills.

    So all I ask, before you post something on the forum, is to consider whether you’ve asked it in a positive way. Rather than stating something is a problem, instead ask how you could overcome that issue. If you see someone asking having difficulties with something, don’t just tell them to ‘git gud’ but provide helpful advice. Think what P0rthos would do.

    We may not have P0rthos anymore, but we can all channel the spirit of P0rthos. Be more like P0rthos
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 20 Aug 2018
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  2. Kurd1stan.

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    IAM not gonna visit a forum if 80% of its thread are in "strategy discussion" not mentioning that it won't fix any matchmaking or anything ,

    fixing MM and gear score and banning seal clubbers will help everyone and not just only those who visit the forum ,

    and what ever your strategy is you must have a good gear to do it successfully , I mean give me a strategy to kill an all T5E double bubble enforcer with my 7 T5R and 1 T5E shooter , you can't hide and probably you can't get inside his shield easily , so a good strategy is to break his shield in 1 shot then shoot him but you cant do that because you cant break his shield in 1 shot and till you hit him with your second shot probably he has shot you with a flare and a BC
    you can give me a strategy how to kill a speed with my shooter setup in 1 Vs 1 and it will work but still it won't be easy and I will take couple of shots , but it won't work if he can kill a full hp shooter in couple of shots because he is a seal clubber
    dont get me wrong ;) all what I'm saying is "fixing" is the only way to actually fix this ,

    if you have mk6s but you wanna use your speeder that is MK2 that is fine but it is impossible that an Mk6 cant get 1m gold to upgrade his MK2 it is obvious that he is doing it to trick the system , so why not banning him for couple of events ?

    I asked Devs to make epic item's gear score higher because comparing epic and rare gear score and contribution doesn't fit , but instead they lowered it and you can see many posts about epic items doing same contribution as rare items but the rare item has a higher gear score , I mean "o_O"

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    Kurd1stan., 20 Aug 2018
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  3. NeptuneGaming

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    YOU ARE A GREAT WRITER BELIEVE ME
     
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  4. YerJokinArnYer

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    I am not saying we should bury our heads in the sands about problems. Quite the opposite. I have written posts with suggested solutions to many of the problems that people raise. I’ve written other posts about protecting the rewards of low league players.
    But personally I would love a high percentage of the posts to be strategic, with fun threads such as ‘This is what a T5E railgun does’ and ‘hilarious player names’ also thriving.

    However thread after thread after thread about event matchmaking does not solve the immediate problem. It just brings more and more frustration. Balancing takes time, and can only be done when an update is released. What I am saying is that we could be spending our time acknowledging but mitigating against those problems until they are fixed.

    For example, say I’m in a match against a player I knew was a seal clubber. If there was a way of communicating that to the entire team, we could then all target him exclusively. Once he’s dead, attack anyone else, but as soon as he resurfaces, all attack the seal clubber again. Yes, I may still lose the game (but against a seal clubber you probably would anyway). But it would reduce his rewards. If that happened game after game to him, he’d have no incentive to seal club. - Now that strategy may work, or it may not. But it’s a strategy that NML players use when they see a player packing T5L’s against them.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 20 Aug 2018
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  5. Djradnad

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    Ah the negative cloud is in here too! I really liked the op by @YerJokinArnYer so let me help you with just one of those strategies..

    1. 1v1 speeder vs shooter - First of all, I am going to assume these are ranked matches, so your team should work together to make sure you aren’t in this situation against a full hp speeder, but if the unfriends played well, here we are..

    I don’t want to write a lot, so here are the highlights; you probably don’t have gear lube, but you should have a mortar. Keep your distance from him so that he can’t get to you during his OB sprint or else he will take advantage of turret agility. As soon as he runs out of OB pummel him until he is dead. Chase him down and use mortar and sniper to keep him from healin behind rocks. If you don’t have the mortar, then go directly to capture (do not pass go,do not collect $200). If you took the capture route, then your odds are really low, but you can blame yourself for having a bad setup, or blame your team for leaving you alone, try to dodge shots, stay as far away from him as you can in the circle, or rather stay on the close side but ready to drive away from him(depends on waves). Good luck, hope this one helps.
     
    Djradnad, 20 Aug 2018
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  6. Help I Cant Swim

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    Another great post! Thanks for the mention. :)

    My take is that posters need to have a balance between requests/complaints to improve the game and positive/helpful posts. Both can be beneficial to this game, as long as they are done respectfully.
     
    Help I Cant Swim, 20 Aug 2018
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  7. Kurd1stan.

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    first : I don't have any mortar Ian not a spammer ( I don't say using a mortar makes you a spammer but now most of shooters use at least 2 mortar ) and I don't use spamming items , Ian not gonna run the game I love and make players leave .unless everyone is spamming , then I will because I don't be able to play if I don't spam

    second: I don't have any SC , why? because I dont use OP items , because it is not fair , and Devs will never never make SC balanced , and don't please don't say it is not way too OP
    , and I have a gear lube , i combined a legendary gear lube before 2 days , I was building a rare gear lube myself , but then I knew it is weak and that is why I don't use it ,
    I can blame myself ? really it is my problem for not using an OP item ? and mortar ? he will just nitro away and hide behind another rock .

    and btw you are just giving a strategy for a normal fair situation without mentioning he has way better gear score and the match is so unfair.

    Ian not saying that too ,
    and what is your suggestion to stop players from seal clubbing ? there is nothing you can about that only Devs can fix it

    yeah it doesn't solve problems , but it gives more and more data to Devs if they acractua wanna fix it ,but if Devs are saying that is OK because "What we are seeing here is the equivalent of slashing one of your own tires before joining a car race. Stupid for sure, but not an exploit. The only thing you are doing is actually putting yourself in *disadvantage*." if that is what is happening then they won't do it .

    so this is your solution ! lets see

    first : there are too many seal cluvbers to memorize each name or look

    second:there is a way to communicate with your team and it is by battle command , but it won't work because your team won't listen , if they do in NML ,not everyone is in NML ,there are -2k NML players and there are couple of millions of players 2k/5m=0.0004 so we count how NML player act against them
    , and his team can shoot too , and he won't always be available to shoot , and those seal clubbers can kill 2 or 3 players before he die if your team don't focus on him (and probably they won't ) do you think he stop seal clubbing if he can kill 2 or 3 player each he dies !

    and talking about me I want to a spammer/seal clubber instead of winning , but seei all those seal clubbers/spammers probably most of other players want to win more than having fun .
     
    Kurd1stan., 20 Aug 2018
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