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Stop buffing enforcers

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by TwoHeadedFreak, 2 Aug 2018.

  1. TwoHeadedFreak

    TwoHeadedFreak Member

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    Enforcers are already the strongest ship on the bay, when you buff something, it should be because it's weak. The new legendary perk for t shields, OMG, why? It's not bad enough that (it seems) at least half the perks on the raffles are tesla item related, now you're buffing the most powerful boat so that they can be even more BS, seriously, please stop. I have seen on many occasions, a double bubble enforcer go 1 vs 2 when both the other two had 2-3x the amount hp as the enforcer, and because they couldn't burst his bubble, the enforcer wins, losing minimal health. Getting a shot off inside the bubble is incredibly hard given their agility over other boats too.
     
  2. Help I Cant Swim

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    Yes, Enforcers are strong. Double Bubble is the meta. We will likely see a nerf sometime. However, this perk is not going to change anything. Shooters can now equip FOUR LEGENDARY PERKS on each cannon. A single Legendary perk on a Tesla Shield isn't going to change a darn thing.
     
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  3. TwoHeadedFreak

    TwoHeadedFreak Member

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    When your canons don't burst the bubble, it doesn't matter what perks you've got. Unless Rovio want to give me 4 epic snipers so I can upgrade my puny level 20 to have a chance at bursting a buble, I stand no chance. My carronade does burst some bubbles, but it would only just burst them, that perk will be enough to stop it from bursting most bubbles that I can currently burst - yes, that perk is going to make a big difference.
     
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  4. Djradnad

    Djradnad Well-Known Member

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    Lol you make it sound like players have 20 cannon perks already!
     
  5. Help I Cant Swim

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    Snipers are not a good weapon against bubbles. They never have been and never will be. Flare, Explosive Cannon, Blast Cannon, Railgun, and Missiles are your bubble busters. It is not Rovio's fault if you are not using optimal weapons to beat bubble users.
     
  6. Help I Cant Swim

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    You probably do. :p
     
  7. TwoHeadedFreak

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    If it wasn't random what weapons I got, then yes it would be my fault. I'd love to have a t4 or t5 epic bc or ec. Alas, I have no bc's and my ec is only t1. So yes, I guess it's my fault for being so damn unlucky not to get the dupes to upgrade my ec.
     
  8. Help I Cant Swim

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    I understand the frustration.. but what do you want them to do about it? If they make Snipers able to easily break Shields, then Snipers would be ridiculously overpowered.
     
  9. TwoHeadedFreak

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    I'd simply like them to stop buffing enforcers, that's all. No need to buff the sniper.
     
  10. SlayerofSergeants

    SlayerofSergeants Well-Known Member

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    You have a point that we have several options for busting bubbles. I'd take missiles off that list though, they are way too inconsistent.

    Explosive cannon and blast cannon must be specifically tailored for bubble busting as well. No more fire bonus perks, so no point in carrying a flare anymore (except to burst your bubble).

    While the bubble is effective vs virtually all weapons, it's frustrating that we have to specifically design our loadout around bursting a bubble with only a few options to be effective at it. It renders these items less effective at dishing damage to others via combo etc...

    I'm finding that my NML matches nearly always include at least 1, if not 2 enforcers on enemy team. Frequently I see a pair of top enforcers fleeted together stomping out any opposition.

    The bay is being homogenized and switching up my loadout is simply not an option in infamy matches. The constant strengthening of the little yellow ship is stifling innovation.
     
  11. Djradnad

    Djradnad Well-Known Member

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    Are missiles that inconsistent against a big bubble? I will say that the only time most of my shots with a carronade land is on a big ol bubble shield, but they don’t pop.
     
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  12. SlayerofSergeants

    SlayerofSergeants Well-Known Member

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    I've got T5E missiles.

    The unpredictable pathing with missiles is irritating. You can lead a target to the right and all of the missiles go left. You can fire dead on and they spread around the target two on one side, three on the other.

    They are also difficult to use to hit targets moving towards or away from you, much easier to hit left-right movement. One other thing is that as soon as someone realizes one of your 2 or 3 weapons is missile, they'll get right in your face because of the minimum range.

    On the plus side, they do hit enforcer bubbles because it is a big target. Also the splash through shield sometimes gets them as well.

    Overall though, I'd rather have my swift torp when faced with an enforcer.
     
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  13. Djradnad

    Djradnad Well-Known Member

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    Yea that’s the same as carronade. The worst thing is when my 6th projectile pops it, and my 7th breaks their stun
     
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  14. FearsomeChicken

    FearsomeChicken Well-Known Member

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    Thinking of running dual flare setup on my defender, if the enfo bubble meta becomes more prevalent after this. I hope I'm not forced down that road.
     
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  15. TheAntiSnipe

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    Do it lol! I'm planning a dual flare nade build myself! It is AWESOME.

    Also, since you're the kind of defender that the team follows, double flare will be awesome for you!
     
  16. FirnenAhead

    FirnenAhead Well-Known Member

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    The problem is about Double Bubbles, not about Enforcers. Speeders and 1-Shield Enforcers have right to a T.Shield Perk... We already see OP perks like Wildfire and Shocking RG everywhere. This one is just another good perk. I'm expecting them to balance double bubbles soon as well, but i'm really concerned about nerfing every Enforcer.

    Missiles get to break shields and deal around 1k damage at the same time. Just aim them good and have some luck.
     
  17. SeaNavy

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    All I'm hoping for is that they don't indirectly buff shooters again while nerfing double bubble. Because imo shooters are nearly as powerful but there are too many of them it's hard to notice.
     
  18. Terry Morgan

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    Snipers won't crit on a bubble bro so that wont help. My flare and full damage EC won't break some bubbles now. Also my T4legendary grenade won't break them either!!!! Now that is a broken item if ever there was one and enforcers get two!!!! Load of crap!




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  19. Terry Morgan

    Terry Morgan Well-Known Member

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    But now my T5 epic flare bounces off many teslashields! What a frigin joke!


    Turkett
     
  20. Nam_Nam

    Nam_Nam Active Member

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    Yeah

    Even as an enforcer that’s runs ONE tessashield, I hope they nerf it

    I was actually thinking of a radical change to the enforcer...
     
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