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Event Perks-Pieces and Guild Tokens-Rewards

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Nicolas, 24 Jul 2018.

  1. YerJokinArnYer

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    Even though I have an opposing view to the OP (which I have already set out so I won’t repeat myself), I do not believe for one minute that his idea was intended to be inflammatory or insulting in any way.

    The difficulty with some posts are that they pit one group of players against another, and at those points opinions can become inflamed (I have created some threads which ended up creating a similar furore).

    When we are faced with people with differing opinions, it is important that we all remember to respect that people have the right to hold different beliefs, and to allow them to express those beliefs. Sometimes we will change their minds, sometimes we won’t. But ultimately we must always retain that respect for our fellow forum members and their right to hold a different belief than our own.
     
  2. Nicolas

    Nicolas Well-Known Member

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    I will kindly ask u to delete ur post because it contains bad words.
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    @Help I Cant Swim
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  3. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    nope, the guild with 70+ quests will (now) get more tokens because there are rewards for finishing quests and clearing boards;)
    buffing rewards is good idea, but why only top 100? what about those in top 200, 500 etc.?
    yes!! I get power cells in majority of cases and they're useless, I doubt that anyone would complain if power cells were replaced in guild raffle
    chances should be same for everyone, number of tries could be different, not % chances of getting something
    that's RNG, maybe that 500 infamy player wanted rudder perk, you have relatively small chance of getting perk that you want, when you want only one of them
    many things changed and I don't think that there is point in comparing situation in BB year ago and now
    too harsh, so NO (imho)
    buying box for 90 coins, that's just way too much
    you could only buy 10 boxes before getting a perk, that' imo not enough...
    coins could rather range from 30 to 45
    why 45? with 45 coins per box, you could buy 20 boxes and get leggy perk
    with 30 coins per box, you could buy 30 boxes and get leggy perk
    that's imo fair

    interesting suggestions, some should be implemented (replacement of power cells, buff of top guilds' rewards-but with adjustement), some could be implemented (box prices ranging from 30 to 45 coins, that's the change of number of tries for lower infamy players) and some should never be implemented (adjustement of chances for players, too big box prices in events)
     
  4. xArrogance

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    If I may... Um, I'll tell you the problem with the scientific power that you're using here, it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could, and before you even knew what you had, you patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now [bangs on the table] ...

    Don't you see the danger, FiiNami, inherent in what you're doing here? Legendary weapons are the most awesome force the planet's ever seen, but you wield it like a kid that's found his dad's gun.

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  5. Djradnad

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    I’m pretty sure we already get a lot of unspecified things for being a higher level.. I can’t tell you how much more often I get leggy parts from daily crates now compared to when I started, oh wait I can, I get them almost every day now, and I never got them before!

    My point is that I don’t think the OP’s suggestions are needed
     
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  6. xArrogance

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    Welp, I'll take all your extras .. since I only get them from season rewards and a few every couple of weeks in raffles.
     
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  7. Nicolas

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    Im sure that ur not a high infamy player. It's clear that ur supporting ur ppl (new players and low infamy players).
     
  8. YerJokinArnYer

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    @Djradnad is a nightmare league player. But that’s actually irrelevant. A person’s infamy does not give your opinion more of less weight than anyone else’s. Suggesting that there is a ‘them and us’ and that people’s opinions will be formed by what level of infamy a person has is very divisive and creates the level of friction seen earlier on this post before it was cleaned up.
    There is nothing wrong with agreeing to disagree.
     
  9. Nicolas

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    Infamy does give opinions more weight.
    Reason: we tried everything in Battle Bay: We used to be called "New players".
    We worked hard.
    We gained infamy, and we climbed from a league to another.
    It's like elections: ur not allowed to give ur opinion until u reach 18.
    In Battle Bay: ur opinion gains more weight when u gain more infamy.
     
  10. Cricketmad

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    I disagree slightly, although lower infamy players opinions should matter as much they only have 1 perspective on things compared to those with higher infamy who have been both a lower and higher player. Also the higher players are most likely paying players so Rovio are likely going to take their opinions more seriously as they are the ones paying for the game. Btw I am not a large paying player or a high infamy player so I am Switzerland in this discussion :)
     
  11. YerJokinArnYer

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    Again I will agree to disagree with you on this.
    I would say that in your analogy, once you reach 18 (which a lot of forum members are) your vote is equal to everyone else’s. It does not matter how much you earn, or how intelligent you are - your vote is equal.
     
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  12. Cricketmad

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    As far as the whole OP discussion the season rewards increase with infamy, the battle rewards increase with infamy. Now the quest rewards increase with effort and infamy makes these easier as often higher infamy players have more powerful weapons so I would say the rewards do increase with infamy for the quests. Therefore I would suggest that the event rewards should increase with infamy but the increase should not be huge maybe 5 coin difference per level (i.e Ace is 1 level not 3) required per box but the leg perk should be the same for everyone I think.
     
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  13. Nicolas

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    Event and guild rewards should increase with player infamy.
    I suggested 5 battle coins difference per box price between leagues. I just wanted to attract as much attention as possible. Devs might agree with my suggestion.
    They might find another way to keep rewards system fair for all leagues.
     
  14. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    there is one difference:
    age limit is logical-younger people are more rig-able and their menthal "evolution" is not finished so they might not think about all consequences of their actions
    opinion weight by infamy is not logical-infamy is irrelevant number that is kinda RNG based so it's value as weight measier for opinions is discutable, rather completely pointless
    as I tried (evidentally unssuccesfully) to show you, levels of items that were strong enough to get you to NM are now good for master/really low ace (maximaly, rather not) and those players at high infamy (and also those who started earlier) had more time and bigger rewards (slightly, thanks to their infamy) to get better items, from not even maxed rares to maxed epics, but progression at lower infamy is slower and those at lower infamy also started later so they had less time and lower rewards (per battle and season) to get their strong items, that caused the gap between older and newer players and it would just stay (and it would probably grow) if devs didn't implement easier way of obtaining dupes for items-achievements, one epic or leggy is weak for those who have t4 or t5 epics but it will help lower level players to catch up and it gives them opportunity to get higher, events also helped players at lower infamy to get better items faster, it's boosting progression at high infamy too but it's not that significant (maybe that's what triggers you so much?) so the gap is not growing, it's probably even getting smaller
     
  15. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    you are right, we argued because he said things like
    yeah but majority of high infamy players had different start, no seal clubbers, no maxed t4E items at 1k infamy etc., they had low(er) infamy too but it was different situation so imo they can't really much relevant to lower infamy now because of the different situations:)
     
  16. Nicolas

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    To clarify I reached nightmare using this setup:
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    Maybe at lvl37. because in this pic im already in nightmare.
     
  17. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    you are right, we argued because he was arrogant af, said that my opinion is irrelevant because I want devs to keep the current situation because I am low infamy player, noob who wants to get op items etc.
    seems to be typical for NM at this point-met seal clubber in event, said that my opinion is irrelevant, because my infamy is under 4k, some NM players at forums and also in game act like this, they act like they are "more people";)
    the problem with the suggested change is, that they are too harsh for new players (like 90 coins per event box, wtf is that...:rolleyes:) and would make the difference between rewards between new and old players even bigger (100% buff for top guilds, again wtf is that...)
    then he accused me of:
    offending him (used what he said and edit to describe him, lol)
    using multiple accounts-spamming, "based on IP"
    no proofs etc. but said that he reported me, that's not normal way of having argument-based discussion
    and?
    1. when?
    2. I never said that everyone reached NM with rares, but that it was possible to reach NM with t3 rares and t2 epics (even t1 epics, lol), something that's not possible now, these item won't even get you to ace...
    and no reaction? again no logical arguments etc?
     
  18. Nicolas

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    no reaction because event just started.
    I don't remember when I reached nightmare.
    Btw there are many ppl who use rare weapons in nightmare league.
     
  19. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    I guess t5R, show me one who REACHED NM in last month with only t3 rares and t2 epics, nothing better, ok?
     
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  20. TheAntiSnipe

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    What the OP is saying is just wrong on so many levels in my perspective.

    1. You're adopting a Them And Us attitude. Unhealthy.
    2. You say that progression for newbies should be nerfed. Have you heard of a game that did this? It's usually what BB has been doing so far, capping the high end and letting the low end grow so that the low end gets a chance to reach the high end, feasibly.
    3. This system doesn't have a ghost of a chance of working under these circumstances. First, the game needs to be balanced and reworked. Because currently, sealclubbers necessitate high tier guns in the lower leagues.
    4. I'm an old player. Been playing for a year and two months now. Not among the oldest on the bay, but even so. I know how difficult it was then, and the complaints that we made on this very forum saying that the progression needed acceleration.

    All in all, if WE were complaining about this back when we joined the game, it is only fair that the new players today get the rewards we called for.
     
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