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How is it not cheating?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by NotHappyJan, 1 Jul 2018.

  1. Real Baha

    Real Baha Member

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    Why would anyone want to advance, spend, train, etc if events had the same boat and same loadout?

    If people want to stay with one ship and 8 items as you say, now they can’t contribute to guild quests, now they can’t be ready for the next meta, now they really never evolve.
     
  2. Real Baha

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    Rovio has to get paid. It’s ridiculous to think they would make a game or any app based solely on people who don’t spend a dime.
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    Many ads do you see on Battle Bay? I see none. And that’s the point. I pay to skip past the ads, I spend on chests to get the next leg piece.
    I’m not saying they should bend to paying players. But if you have someone with 12 T4 leg, 15 T5 epics and all MK7 boats. That person should be matched against a similar inventory. And it’s highly unlikely that person is going to scrap all of that just to seal club.
     
  3. envylife

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    You guys are still way off base. Just LEVEL ALL SHIPS AT ONCE, and all these problems magically disappear.

    Seriously folks... Pretending that matchmaking based on your inventory is reasonable is a joke... you don't go to battle with your inventory! Solution? See above.

    Want another hint? See my first comment above.
     
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  4. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    It's pretty hard to ask someone to level all ships at once due to the cost. I rather have a block where you can't take a ship 2+ MK lower than your highest MK. You can't play in MK5 if you have an MK7. Some people will say that what if that person never upgrade to MK7? Guess whose loss it is then.
     
  5. envylife

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    It should be a game thing... one cost to go up to the next level... no more individual boat leveling supported.
     
  6. Doc.Archy

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    Funny, I came here to see who else was complaining about the high lvl players who with 1-2 shots destroy low lvl players in the cap or kill event.
    I just started this game a month or 2 ago and at lvl 21 and have a mk2 shooter as my main.
    I have been running into these mk2 high lvl players like B.E.A.R. and :Duck: and the one mentioned in the OP picture.
    Once I notice them hitting me for 1k each shot with their lvl 1 legendary weapons or lvl 50 epic weapons, doesn't make sense I fight.
    I just take a break from the event and hope they go sleep or take a break as well when I get back.
    Frustrating, and it seems a lot of you share the same sentiments.
    Hoping I'll be able to still find some enjoyment out of playing this, enough to make it to a higher level.
     

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  7. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    Can you share the battle link? Just want to see how much health was that defender.
     
  8. Mad_Bulls_007

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  9. TVNPryde

    TVNPryde Well-Known Member

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    If that’s not manipulating the system, what is? Rovio should be embarrassed for letting this go on for weeks now.
     
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  10. ShipCrusherCz

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    Does it really matter?
    cheating in events is bad, but using mk5 and 6 ships around 1k infamy is something that you shouldn't be allowed
    I suggest making "protected infamy areas"-you won't meet these guys in some infamy ranges, you could meet them again only if you climbed higher than is normal for your ship, you may ask "what will happen with these high mk low infamy players?", that's simple: they will be matched only with players with similar ship mk, captain lvl etc.
    it would force them to get better and then climb to their normal infamy area or stay at low infamy and only get matched with other high mk low infamy players
    and when someone drops below his infamy area? they will be matched with other players who should not be that low but because they are usually noobs, he will be able to climb back
    this would make it possible to remove the system which reduces your reward when you are marked as infamy tanker, instead of this, players who are lower than they should be will reciece only reduced rewards (and reduced hardly, the bigger the difference between your ship mk and weapon's levels and their ship mk and weapon's levels, the higher the reduction is)
    I suggest that if this is ever implemented, devs should give some time (few weeks/months but not too long) to the players to climb to their "normal" infamy
    this would make BB again begginer friendly because it could push away the ****** who rkt low level players with their OP ships and items

    I have simple way of preventing those players from fooling the system but I want to tell it to the devs, of course only if they are interested in this idea
     
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  11. Flint

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    True, but I wonder why haven't they implemented back then? Would have solved so many problems, complaints and people leaving this game. I am all for fixing the excisting problem first, before starting something new. Because the more you are slacking with fixing these issues, but meanwhile you are making new events and other new stuff, the further they will be lagging behind. And there comes a point, where all the problems, bugs, etc just becomes too much and people lose sight of which to tackle first. I have seen companies working like that, which are no longer in excistence because of it.

    I myself have made the same mistake also, although it was an health issue, but still it went all south because I was not on top of it all.
     
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  12. Flint

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    They have to get paid, nothing wrong with that. That you get bettter weapons fine also, but if they have a fair play rule and they expect us to play fair, they themselves have to give us battles.
     
  13. SupremeCalamitas

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    First of all, these MK6 JACKASSES should be ashamed of themselves, knowing that they are crushing those incapable of reaching their power level just to gain an edge. I guess 1 MK change ( like MK 4 to 3) is ok, but past that is NOT, especially a 4 MK decrease.

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  14. Flint

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    I agree they should be ashamed. And I don't want to nit pick, but maybe you should change the 'f-word' before seal clubbers.cheaters.
     
  15. Flint

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    It is for events only, with the normal battles nothing changes.
     
  16. TheAntiSnipe

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    To the devs,

    This is a clear cut case. People like these are ruining the game experience for anyone wanting to play a fair game. I personally think that their actions merit tempbans at least from events. And think that their behaviour and blatant disregard for our own Fair Play Policy merits allowing them to be reported by the ingame system on charges of "Harassment" and "Cheating". Their exploitation of the game mechanics even with the knowledge that they are being unfairly matched with low level players is clearly the kind of behaviour that the Fair Play Rules were meant to protect players from.


    Just my two cents.
     
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  17. YerJokinArnYer

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    I absolutely 100% agree that new players should be protected from exploitation.

    But as I’ve previously said, we have only seen one screenshot and one replay of a match (which admittedly was very one-sided),

    We do now know what the players event win rate was like, whether they used that setup all weekend or just for a couple of matches, or indeed whether this match was typical of the type of opponents he was facing. By the same logic that players are using against this player, I could report Miika for being matched against me with his higher mark ship, better gear, higher captain level and the one sided match that followed (At the time I was annoyed but with hindsight it was good to see and a good learning experience for me, and he did contact me afterwards to cheekily apologise).

    If this match was typical of his weekend, then something should be done. Miika would need to have a look at how this player was able to exploit MMR and how to stop it happening again. But only the Devs have the evidence to review that, and until then all players have the right/deserve the dignity of not being named or shamed, or found guilty in a kangaroo court.

    Did all players here not have the ocassional game where they felt the player they massively overpowered their opponent?
     
  18. Flint

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    Here is one, but I have seen many more. Last weekend in the Chill Zone people were sharing tons of battles which were unbalanced.

    Fair.jpg
     
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  19. TheAntiSnipe

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    I agree and of course discretion is needed when handling these cases. But I think we can trust the devs in that:)
     
  20. SupremeCalamitas

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    Done-zo
     

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