When is carronade worth it?

I have an epic carronade I about to bring to tier 2. When does it become effective and not liability? What boats are the best fit and why? Thanks..

 

Speeder is best fit. It isn't really a liability except at captain level 0-20

 

Don't user speeder typically, what would be second choice?

 

I'd say it's good for every ship; what really depends is what other weapons/gear you have on them.

Also, carronade is a late game weapon, so don't be surprised if it's really weak at first. When you get it levelled up, you can really cause havoc in the enemy lines Unless, of course, if a big blue boat suddenly appears in front of you

 

Don't insult people that are asking a normal question. Also, yes it is a liability early on. Carronade needs its extra projectiles to be decent, and its extra range and slow effect to be good. Before those things, it's just bad.

 

Mine as u know is uncommon T3 and is 55 a pellet and shreds the opponents.

 

Carronade is really a late game item. It doesn’t get good until you have all the extra projectiles unlocked.

Speeder is actually one of the most awkward ships to run it on, because it clashes with all of Swift’s speed talents. You can’t even think about running it on a Speeder until you have a really high level Epic Turbo to pick up the slack.

I would actually caution you against upgrading an Epic to t2, because you’re gambling a lot of resources on being able to find 3rd and 4th duplicates, faster than you could upgrade a Rare. It’s best not to even start until you’re sure you can get it to t4. Otherwise, you can get stuck with a really underpowered item ‘late game’, that’s impossible to complete.

 

Tier 4 epic or use something else. Simple. Because ship speed is much more important and training weak carronade isn't worth it.

 

From my limited but astute observations, Speeder doesn’t need every speed source available to be effective.

 

Why do you like the range perks on carronade?

 

Try Enforcer with Frost Blaster + Carronade

 

Here's my build.

I'm playing around with this in nightmare at the moment and pretty much tested every skill/perk combinations with this setup and here's what I found. Keep in mind that this only applies to speeders

• both of the gimmick abilities are worthless if you're playing speeder.
• Speed reduction is ONLY useful when you're in 1v1 with another speeder and I don't know why you would sacrifice 15% speed and 1 point of range to slow down ships that are way slower than you in the first place. You can catch up and get away from them even with a weak nitro.
  
• Even if you max out your slowdown talents to 70%, it's nothing a max rare overboost or nitro cannot overcome. You can dream all day about shredding that opposing speeder with your op carro but in reality he will just overboost and nitro away from your reach even with all the slow effects stacked on top of him. And guess what, you can't catch up because a) your yellow items are already weaker because of carro trainigs and b) you just reduced your speed by 15% and your effective range by 1. Lol.
• Turret slowdown looks impressive in the talent tree but it's negligible in real battle. It's the same case as other talents. You don't need to slow down defenders/shooter turrets because you can outrun their turret all day with max speed and No it doesn't help you against enforcers or any unlucky soul with legendary gear lube because they will 360 no scope you in no time. So no, I'm not sacrificing carronade damage, nitro cool down and speeder hp for this skill.
• If you're a speeder main, keep all your speed talents except maybe swift level 5 because what you can do in late game is that make use of that extra over the limit speed by replacing turbo perks by ship hp perks. You can get extra 100-250 hp for free while staying at max speed.

 

Qn:When is Carronade worth it?

Ans:When you are in the middle of deadly match and also when u face enemies face to face.

 

Great, interesting post, especially for me as speeder carronader in Ace. I’ve found I like some of the slowdown talents (not sacrificing 10% speed) and all of the turret debuffs, but to each their own. My real question is: how important do you think range is on the carronade?

 

If you’re using it to slow the enemy more, then you can tag the unfriendly from pretty far away with range perks. It slows them down even if only one pellet lands.

 

If you using it on speeder range isn't important. If you using it on other ships still carronade has too low range to increase it with perks as percantage. Buzzkill and burnice final talents seems pretty enough to me. No need to cut off its damage with range perks.

 

I agree with a lot that was said so I'll just add two things :
1) I think the carronade can be useful on just about any ship, but in different ways. It is a short range weapon, so on slower boats like Def and Shooter, it is mainly a defensive weapon : those boats don't have the speed to close in, so they use carro only when unfriends come to them. On a speeder (and perhaps Enfo but that's the only boat I don't play) it is more of an offensive weapon. My main speeder set-up is carro + XCann. It's good, but you need to understand its limitations : it is an anti-yellow-boats and anti-fixer set-up, so you need to target those in priority.
2) I cannot imagine playing my Mk6 fixer without a carro (and usually napalm, sometimes missile). As a fixer, you're the unfriend speeders' first target and they will hound you continually — but a good carronade can make them think twice before they come your way. I call it my "speeder repellant". ;-) Besides, you usually can't use the carro because you're way out of range, so it gives you more time to manage all the rest — and you often need it as a fixer.