Battle Bay as e-sport

I just saw this video

My opinion is that battle bay can never be an e-sport to be picked up from professionals simply for the amount of time/money required to reach a competitive level.
You need several years (not an exageration) of continuous grinding, and/or several hundreds of thousands of dollars (also not exaggerated) to have your full set of favourite legendaries (not all of them). Not even mentionning the sugar training for maxing all the operators.

So this from me to Rovio, abandon the "e-sports" ship. OR embrace it to the fullest extent. If you want to make money using sponsorships and be the leader to take on the e-sports road, you need to let the opportunity for skilled players to shine. Say for example a Ranked leaderboard, with its own queue of equalized, fully trained operators and fully custom perked legendaries. Only then will the true nightmare players come to light. And people might call this the first mobile e-sport ever made. Until then I only see your youtube vs dignitas as nothing more than a joke.

If you're afraid people might stop grinding yellows if you give them a special queue for it theres a lot of ways to help against that: ranked wins don't count toward guild quests, special events dont have equalized weapons, infamy system could keep going the way it is in parallel with a new leaderboard for equalized arenas.

I'm sure Rovio don't really care about e-sports in mobile gaming and just care about making money, so I'm sure this is just a rant that'll get lost in the sea of threads

 

You are very fast at jumping to conclusion without noticing that all players take part in the invitation were using items that have same levels (all Mk7 ships, all T5E items)

 

My concern isnt about the video or the people they invited, its that right now there is no way to judge what skill level a player has because good weaponry overpowers skill.

If Rovio thinks they can just make events like these inviting youtube players and maybe even the top nightmare players, to THEN acknowledge they need to play equalised arena, it defeats the whole point.

It just means its a media promotion, those players would be very far from being pros, and the whole event would be far from what an esport is.

 

Well right now I guess we have no way of judging on what the future might be, but the fact that they started marketing battle-bay as an e-sport, while it has little to none of e-sport requirements, is actually going to chase away potential professional players and sponsors.

Unless they are going to let ANY player climb his way to the top and prove himself using skill alone, this whole "e-sport" isn't even relevant to the typical BB player. We'll be just spectators on the scene while some random youtubers or sponsored teams fight their way in a podium, making the game itself look bad because they won't be the top 1% percentile in the skill spectrum.

 

It really doesn't, though. There are people with legendaries and an mk6 ship sitting at 1000 infamy, and other people with the same stuff sitting at 4000. Why do you think that is?

 

@BITTERSTEEL rocking with grenades,mines and Carronade!!

 

You say BitterSteel got to nightmare with blue weapons, but all I see is T5 epics on him and on everyone from the top 50 leaderboard.
You say skill is relevant, but I dare you to play really average, with a full set of yellows and not destroy everyone. I play every other e-sport there is, there's a massive difference between having absolutely no advantage over your opponents besides skill level, and battle bay where your loadout decides a big part of your match.

I'm not saying there's no skill involved, by all means if the matchmaking is balanced it boils down to who's the better player, but I can't say that I've never played games that were lost since start, regardless of how good I might be. As a level 35 with only an mk5 and already stuck at 1600 infamy because any further and i'll start facing mk7, you tell me I need "skill" to kill a 12k hp defender with a fixer that has as much hp as I do.

Also please stop using the top percentile as examples, they're already up there on top, the game they're playing is nothing like the remaining 80% is playing. Once you have full gear then yes, talk to me about skill, until then it's a completely different game.

 

Bittersteel made it to NML when he was using nearly all rare items in his setup IN THE PAST. And now you have a look at him, he is IN THE PRESENT.

Moreover, which one you really want to talk about? The MM system in Ranked match or the E-sport Invitation? Those two are completely different so please don't put them together to make a comparison

And do you even read my post about the E-Sport Invitation? All of the Participants were using same MK ships, same items level. So during the Inviation, SKILLS is all they need to win the match because everything esle is 100% balanced

 

Well this is no longer about E-Sports
I agree weapons play a big part but skill is still the deciding factor, I myself made it to 2600 in a mk5 speeder and I don't consider myself that skilled as my kid is always distracting me!!

 

Personally, I don't think BB would make a great e-sport due to how slow it can feel... Maybe it's different at the top end, but from where I am (hovering around 2k) it's generally a bit slower.
If they reduced the cooldowns by say 25% or so (similar to the TDM events, but global cd included) then I'd say it was viable

 

Skill is a huge part of this equation.

It's been almost a year since I lost 1000k infamy.
I wouldn't even know how to drop now. Most nitemare players that really play only swing 300 points down at any point and usually trajectory up. Question is this from their better gear? Or have they learned how to manage a battle bay arena and what it takes to consistently win?

More likely the latter.

Eventually every player can max out rates. Or epics.

At this point you are ready to deal enough damage in any areana. The first player to hit 6k used only maxed epics. Many players that the game were forced to nerf Frost.... used maxed epics. Not the Leg 4s and leg 5s you see now.

But even now these players when they play easily kill any boater out their. No matter the opponent. Ysl, blacktail, orpheus, and others can still completely slay from skill.

It isn't the weapons. It's the user.

To go forward to e.sports. only some light balancing issues remain. Ie enforcer current advantage. And defender current weakness in regular mode. But this could easily be done thru top players and developers doing a discord chat group and talk thru each weapon and item to bring it up or down to better ballance. Once this is done. This game will be ready for E.sports

 

Nonsense

 

I have no idea about what you are saying.
Does that mean that I have no skill?

Yeah but now Bittersteel has better equipment. Just ask mothersteel Lol. @BITTERSTEEL