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Gear lube and rudder are garbage

Discussion in 'Suggestions & Ideas' started by Hiding, 4 Jun 2018.

  1. Hiding

    Hiding New Member

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    Combine them into one item.

    Add new blue item that increases range of weapons.
     
  2. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

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    They are garbage, and should be fixed. However, combining them won’t help, they’d still be garbage.

    The best way to fix them (IMO) would be to give them some overlap with the meta items (turbo and shield). For example if rudder increased agility, and also increased speed a bit. Then it would be a viable alternative to Turbo, for people who want more agility and don’t mind sacrificing ‘a bit’ or speed. At the moment you’d need to sacrifice ‘all’ your speed, and no one wants to do that, which is why gearlube and rudder will always be trash.
     
  3. Fix-it

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    Rudder isnt trash, trust me. Do my "speed trio" trick and judge again. "Overboost+turbo+rudder". These can make any ship to compete with speeder about travelling and doing manuevers. I used this on my fixer when I havent got shield and result:
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    It was pretty op on lower tiers, almost like a healing speeder.
     
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  4. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    At speeder mk6, rudder is pretty viable. At shooter mk6, similarly, gearlube is viable.


    However, having to sacrifice extra health/armor for just some extra turnspeed or turret rotation makes these items underpowered.

    Now if I got another boost with my rudder, THAT would be epic.
     
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  5. Rez Messing

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    As I am now an owner of a T2 epic gearlube I find it advantageous with me Defender. but yeah, it seems wrong to sacrifice shields for it. Lube and Rudder should be their own category of items.
     
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  6. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    what about giving turbo new stat? increasing speed of everything makes it less maneuverable, so what about making this: increasing of turbo boost would decrease ship's turning speed, this would make rudder better if you wanted to have fast ship which is also maneuverable
     
  7. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    rudder is in reality pretty op for speeder as you can do 180° easier, you can drift to cover easily without need of making large turn
    gear lube is effective for defender because of it's slow turret speed but almost no defender will sacrifice bandage/shield/turbo for faster turret rotation
     
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  8. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Maxed* rudder. At rare t4, rudder is superb. It is actually the only rare blue I want right now lol
     
  9. ShipCrusherCz

    ShipCrusherCz Well-Known Member

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    Does it really matter?
    at lower levels, lower level rudder is enough, my t2 rare rudder makes it possible to dodge everything
     
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  10. SeaNavy

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    Another idea is increasing defender slot points by one, so they can equip second big shield and replace one of the standard shiped for lube or rudder without losing much HP.
     
  11. c3n3

    c3n3 Well-Known Member

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    The rudder is as good as is, gearlube should be a shield perk
     
  12. StrictSalmon307

    StrictSalmon307 Well-Known Member

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    This thread was about improvements for rudder and gearlube, not about having defenders use it more. Besides, if defenders got another slot they would just put 1 big shield and fill the rest with even more small shields and bandages.
     
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  13. SeaNavy

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    More defenders using it does lead to more use of Gearlube and rudder if you didn't know...
     
  14. StrictSalmon307

    StrictSalmon307 Well-Known Member

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    Improvements to usability, not increased usage.
     
  15. Rez Messing

    Rez Messing Active Member

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    Saying that rudder and gearlube needs to fixed implies that there is something inherently wrong with them. When some people say they use those items it is implied that there is nothing wrong with them. Perhaps the problem lies more in some people’s misunderstanding of them.
     
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  16. StrictSalmon307

    StrictSalmon307 Well-Known Member

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    You’re right. I was just telling him what the thread was about.
     
  17. *JAWS*

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    Scrap them Both.

    And add more base turret and turn radius to all ships. Especially Defender.
     
  18. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    You can allow me to put this perk on my rudder: Screenshot_20180605-180059.png
    Or you can think about ways to ruin your own items :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
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    My rudder is fine.
    • Yes, I'm a low infamy player;
    • No, I don't care.
    :p
     
  19. Hokuse

    Hokuse Well-Known Member

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    Rudder and gear lube isn't garbage.
    Maybe defender a little bit but the others are fine.
     
  20. StrictSalmon307

    StrictSalmon307 Well-Known Member

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    257. If you put like 10 epic health perks on a rudder it can be a big shield!
    ...
     
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