1. Hey please check out our new forum Suggestions and Ideas found in the area "The Bay" - as we love all your ideas and want to collect them in one place, - please use it going forward. :) Thanks already for helping to make Battle Bay an even better experience. Remember: If your idea already exists - simply add your comment or like to an existing one so we avoid duplicates.
    Dismiss Notice

Speeders doing more damage than shooters

Discussion in 'Strategy Discussion' started by Agile Vanguard, 7 May 2018.

  1. Agile Vanguard

    Agile Vanguard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8 Apr 2018
    Messages:
    1,472
    Occupation:
    Random Battle Bay player and tuber.
    Location:
    In a land far far away...
    For some reason, my mk4 speeder does more damage than a mk5 shooter nearly every battle. My weapons aren’t that good and I don’t have legendaries so shooters should do more damage than me.... but usually they don’t. I think that because I’m in the lower imfamy range, shooters have too many weapons and spam without leading their shots. What do you guys think?
     
  2. Agile Vanguard

    Agile Vanguard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8 Apr 2018
    Messages:
    1,472
    Occupation:
    Random Battle Bay player and tuber.
    Location:
    In a land far far away...
    Oh wait I made a spelling mistake I said leading their sh*ts instead of shots. How do I edit?

    Edit: Wait I figured it out I edited it to shots. Don’t laugh :(
     
  3. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    I think minions are awesome, and shooters are good only if they have mk5 in Ace 1.
     
  4. Agile Vanguard

    Agile Vanguard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8 Apr 2018
    Messages:
    1,472
    Occupation:
    Random Battle Bay player and tuber.
    Location:
    In a land far far away...
    Minions?
     
  5. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    What, that was an offhand comment, isn't that ok?
     
  6. Agile Vanguard

    Agile Vanguard Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    8 Apr 2018
    Messages:
    1,472
    Occupation:
    Random Battle Bay player and tuber.
    Location:
    In a land far far away...
    Lol haha, just laughing even tho I don’t get it.... is it even a joke?
     
  7. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    imgur_reaction.gif
    Nope. But since you came here for some minion stuff...
     
    YerJokinArnYer and HAPPY SITHSHA like this.
  8. R4Z0R

    R4Z0R Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11 Nov 2017
    Messages:
    972
    Location:
    why do u wanna know?
    de de de de... WONANA!
     
    TheAntiSnipe likes this.
  9. R@jith anand

    R@jith anand Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    15 Apr 2018
    Messages:
    232
    Location:
    Tamil Nadu, India
    Yeah I agree with u;);):( Screenshot_2018-05-07-19-13-35-05.png Screenshot_2018-05-07-19-13-23-85.png Screenshot_2018-05-07-19-12-56-11.png
     
  10. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    17 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    2,768
    I'm not surprised by what you say as I calculated once that 11% of Shooters/Defenders issue damage less than their infamy, which is essentially 1 in every match.

    I wish I had good Speeders like you on my teams. Most usually speed around the bay and die within 1 minute into the game, so I just write them off as floaters unless they prove otherwise. It balances fine if the the other team has the same number of Speeders.
     
    R@jith anand and TheAntiSnipe like this.
  11. ViscountSniffit

    ViscountSniffit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    3 Sep 2017
    Messages:
    2,614
    I got put in a game yesterday with @Spinners71 (who used to play Speeder), and he did 28k damage in his Shooter. I could barely do any damage, because he was doing it all so fast. Then after the game I was like ‘gg’ and he’s like ‘oh I didn’t see you, I haven’t had much sleep’

    If he can do 28k, while half asleep, why is it I’m always getting teamed with these guys who can barely manage 3k?

    I think it’s just that all the most terrible players gravitate towards Shooter. That’s why it never gets nerfed, even though good players can wreck face with it.

    There is no way I should be able to outdamage Shooters with just my 1 gun, yet it happens all the time.

    Look at these, half of them are defeats, even though I played my ass off.

    7B86F155-AEE8-4D88-9C19-8E48D5494028.png 1617B797-E4EC-4DAC-86C8-BAF9BA04679C.png 0E87712E-3E63-4BB7-BECF-EE6B22CE2954.png F504277B-091A-4C58-BB2D-F1EF63982067.png 116F3016-CA43-4C65-8C4E-E2D9D40CF5A4.png B5846E0B-5918-45A6-B443-8AA0DE53ED82.png
    BA571F4D-59C1-4110-8775-9020AEE2E270.png
     
    What's Up Player likes this.
  12. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    Oh, shooters are good. Even more than enfos, shooters(very few of them, tho) are what very easily takes me out in battle. If used correctly, the shooter's weapon deck can be used to bait and trap enemies into corners, or just outright empty raw DPS, that's pivotal to a win. A shooter on a roll will just cycle weapons and wreck anyone stupid enough to get in his way. I've seen these dudes, Remember My Name in our league being a fine example of a trapper, and people like @Babablacksheep (who goes by MedullaOblongata nowadsys) who snipe and rail people into oblivion. @BITTERSTEEL is the finest example of the dps-pumping midrange brawler I've ever seen, he just LAYS down that damage if you try to come at him.

    And also, guys, shooters that don't get top damage every few games... Need to reevaluate their setups.

    In @P0rthos ' own words, if you want, here it is.
     
  13. The Fashion Girl

    The Fashion Girl New Member

    Joined:
    3 Mar 2018
    Messages:
    12
    Occupation:
    Ass smacker
    Location:
    Whats that coming over the hedge. Is that a......
    Though I have to say, its the shooters who have the highest gear score. I get put with people with double my gear score:confused:
     
    ViscountSniffit likes this.
  14. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    Ha! Shooters are heavily misused, that's why their gearscores are, in general, higher than yellows, greens and blues. We have a lot of setups considered "meta" which we try not to divert too much from because it leads to a noticeable drop in agility, or firepower, or a lot of other factors. Shooters really don't have guidelines for 5/8th of their setup at mk6. Allows them to make the biggest loadout disasters in the game imho.
     
  15. YerJokinArnYer

    YerJokinArnYer MVP

    Joined:
    1 Oct 2017
    Messages:
    1,197
    Location:
    UK
    I do agree with the original premise of this thread, shooters should on average have the highest damage in battle as they have no cooldown issues and can run more of the 2 slot red weapons too.

    However, in shooters defence, they often use weapons which have very different shot velocities, which makes it harder to lead shots than ships where all of the weapons have similar shot velocities. Being able to adapt to those differing lead times is one of the key skills they need which separates the men from the boys.
     
  16. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    I use @00starlord00 's mk5 and I know how difficult mastery of every wep is. It's also what makes shooter so attractive to beginners. It has less, yet more, of a penalty for missing. The "more" part is because you don't realize you're missing a lot till you have t5 epic everything and are still in Ace 1. You rack up those numbers, but it's never really enough since you MISS a LOT.
     
    YerJokinArnYer likes this.
  17. YerJokinArnYer

    YerJokinArnYer MVP

    Joined:
    1 Oct 2017
    Messages:
    1,197
    Location:
    UK
    I also think that part of the problem is they’re using too many ‘high risk/high reward’ weapons. They’re great when they come off, but there is also the need to balance that with more consistent weapons too.
     
    TheAntiSnipe likes this.
  18. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    I think that speeder is a more "blunt" class, in that it kicks you in the face if youre bad with it. It's very highly responsive to skill, and both speeder and enfo really show you what youre bad at, be it handling, tactics, or accuracy. Shooter will only show you these things if you're observant.
     
  19. 00starlord00

    00starlord00 Member

    Joined:
    15 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    54
    That touched my heart bud.o_O:p
     
    TheAntiSnipe likes this.
  20. R4Z0R

    R4Z0R Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    11 Nov 2017
    Messages:
    972
    Location:
    why do u wanna know?
    wait how did he use ur ship lol
     

Share This Page