1. Hey please check out our new forum Suggestions and Ideas found in the area "The Bay" - as we love all your ideas and want to collect them in one place, - please use it going forward. :) Thanks already for helping to make Battle Bay an even better experience. Remember: If your idea already exists - simply add your comment or like to an existing one so we avoid duplicates.
    Dismiss Notice

Burn/Slow Damage Bonus Credit?

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by ChaseSU, 12 Jun 2017.

  1. ChaseSU

    ChaseSU Member

    Joined:
    8 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Just curious, but may I know whether damage bonuses applied by burning or frost effects count as damage dealt by the player who dealt the actual shot, or the player who applied the effect. Let's say I burn an enemy ship with a flare gun. Then, my teammate shoots that same guy with a cannon with 20% bonus damage against burning targets. He does 100dmg+20dmg bonus. Do I get the credit for the 20 damage bonus?
    Of course, not that it matters much in a fight. We all want to help each other out and win anyway :)
    However, that would explain why some non-fixers get more stars compared to their higher-damage teammates that I saw (happens very rarely). I didn't manage to screenshot any pics, will post if that happens again in my team. Anyone have an idea on this?
     
  2. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    Basically, the perk is the characteristic of your equipped weapon, so the damage goes to the person who fired the cannon and not the flare gun.
     
    ChaseSU likes this.
  3. ChaseSU

    ChaseSU Member

    Joined:
    8 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Ahh clears things up. Thanks!Gotta find out why that star thing happens now.
     
  4. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    Can you elaborate, man? I think I can help...
     
  5. ChaseSU

    ChaseSU Member

    Joined:
    8 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Okay sure. I've met quite a few battles that involve some team members getting more stars than their teammates even though they did less damage. For example, I would do 3000 damage and my teammate would do 3500 damage. I get 2 stars at the end of the battle while my teammate gets just 1 star. Of course, we all know that fixers sometimes more stars because they did damage AND fixing. I'm confused because those situations^^ don't involve fixers. I mean... what could be causing it?
    Posting a screenshot of something like that as soon as I can. Thanks so much!
     
  6. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    Okay, I get what you are saying. But, I havent seen this happen...let's see if someone else talks about this
     
  7. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Apr 2017
    Messages:
    1,604
    You'd need a dev. to give the correct answer -- I can tell you what I think though, but it's pure guesswork.
    ---
    Since swapping from cannon to napalm launcher, it's my impression that the amount of 3 star games has increased (while my typical damage is probably around the same on average) - Whether that's coincidental (might very well be) or because the algoritm rewards using disrupting weapons and/or burning bonus damage I don't know.
     
    Netsa likes this.
  8. GhostYasuo

    GhostYasuo Active Member

    Joined:
    17 May 2017
    Messages:
    200
    The thing with stars you mentioned has happened to me but it involved yellow ships.Our enforcer did like 600 damage less than me but got three stars because he contributed by stunning and frosting enemies.I dont think this can happen between two shooters.If it does then Id love to see a screenshot of it :)
     
  9. Kitterini

    Kitterini Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Apr 2017
    Messages:
    1,604
    It happens, although it's rare.

    Could be due to a number of factors though:
    - Who did you damage? (As in, perhaps killing their top contributing player is worth more than killing the afking floater)
    - When did you damage them? (Did they just get healed back to full, rendering your damage dealt pointless)
    - Did your damage make an actual difference?
    - Did you hide in the back or lead the charge?
    - Etc.
     
  10. GhostYasuo

    GhostYasuo Active Member

    Joined:
    17 May 2017
    Messages:
    200
    Ah yes.If all those factors are considered then its definetly possible.
     
  11. Stelmo

    Stelmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Apr 2017
    Messages:
    1,302
  12. GhostYasuo

    GhostYasuo Active Member

    Joined:
    17 May 2017
    Messages:
    200
  13. Stelmo

    Stelmo Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    5 Apr 2017
    Messages:
    1,302
    I think it was mostly a question of my damage being healed up by Bullsharki there, but I don't really know..
     
  14. GhostYasuo

    GhostYasuo Active Member

    Joined:
    17 May 2017
    Messages:
    200
    I guess we will never solve The Great Mystery of Star Calculation lol
     
    ChaseSU likes this.
  15. Kraitok

    Kraitok New Member

    Joined:
    14 May 2017
    Messages:
    15
    From my observations as a frost blaster using Enforcer, if I am able to call and frost targets for the team, and those target take a lot of damage (not necessarily from me) while slowed, then I'm quite likely to end up with 2 or 3 stars even with mediocre to poor damage contributed myself. I've had games where I do barely over 2k damage but still get 3* vs a shooter that did 5k, however I lead the charge and basically took control of the fight.
     
  16. Lord Drek

    Lord Drek Member

    Joined:
    30 May 2017
    Messages:
    36
    As a pyro arson fire bombing torch monger who often gets 2-3 stars without getting top or even near top damage I see some varied scoring. Ill list a few things that seem to contribute to both overall earnings and stars...

    Lots of damage obviously.
    Top threat damage.
    Multiple enemy damage.
    Damaging healer.
    Getting a kill.
    Getting winning kill for sure.
    Capture time.

    They actually do a really good job dishing out earnings for various game exploits without making it overly obvious to be taken advantage of...
     
  17. ChaseSU

    ChaseSU Member

    Joined:
    8 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Yeah it seems all of it is rather complicated. Are they tracking whether we led the charge into battle, top threat damage and other less "obvious" battle stats lol... If that's the case, man! That's a lot of compliacted calculations for the stars!
    Like some of you, since switching over to flare gun (or any other bonus effect weapon) I've sure noticed an increase in such incidents on my part. Weird.
     
    Last edited: 13 Jun 2017
  18. ChaseSU

    ChaseSU Member

    Joined:
    8 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    27
    Got one! Didn't seem like kills matter. Screenshot_2017-06-13-21-10-28.jpg
    I saw another battle where I think a defender was launching fire bombs and burning all 5 of the poor unfriends. He did 3rd damage but was the only one to get 3 stars. : /
     
  19. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    Screenshot_2017-06-16-10-06-12.png
    Not a defender, but thought I should own up
     
  20. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

    Joined:
    11 Jun 2017
    Messages:
    9,118
    Location:
    Classified top secret ;-)
    I'll tell y'all what I think it is.
    It's number of hits, and the game thinks I got off more hits. I believe that the game classifies damage below 15(for rare mk1 lv8 firebomb) as splash, and it doesnt count. But above 16, it is considered an actual hit. So the game thinks I got off 30 hits or something. Lol
     
    CrawlingSkeleton likes this.

Share This Page