Matchmaking - should Gear Score be taken into the equation?

Hello All,

Yep another thread on matchmaking. Haven't we heard it all? Probably, but the matchmaking and the falts in the system are the single most important thing people are getting tired of the game. I have seen so many people leave, but I have not seen changes to stop the Exodus so far. All the ideas which people gave are not being taken over and implemented.

Here are some of your ideas:

- an Infamy level for each ship, so mk1 goes up towards 400 Infamy, then you get a mk2.
- a minimum for each mk ship, so a mk5 cannot get below 800 or a 1000 Infamy. This from polluting the matchmaking and having mk1, mk2, mk3 fight mk5 and mk6.
- a kiddy pool for new players
- a matchmaking designed around the kind of ship and Gear Score you have instead of Infamy.

There are more ideas, but these sprung to mind now. But none have been picked up by the Devs! If this is a community where there is listened to the players, then why no changes to the single most criticized thing in the game? Why?!

With the advent of Gear Score people were talking about how this would one day replace the current matchmaking, but still no sign of it. Matchmaking designed around Gear Score and level of your ship, makes the most sense. Now it is a sum of how much mk there is on each side. Which is of course wrong. But not taken into account is the Gear Score.

So, after 4 battles I lost, I thouhgt I take a look at the numbers of the Gear Score, because I did not get why we lost. This is what I found out:




So, apparently (of course) the team with the higher Gear Score is more likely to win if the teams are equally skilled. There are exceptions of course, but this is from my latest 4 battles I lost, I cannot look back any further, because some people have changed ships or changed weapons, so I cannot see the Gear Score which they had in a particular battle.

But now I do get why we lose or win, the latest battle I won we had a Gear Score of 5500 more than the Unfriends and we wiped them away, like the rain of a window.

So, needless to say: we need matchmaking on Gear Score! Not on Infamy alone, that just does not work and that is why so many people are complaining and lots have left the game.

Or am I wrong?

Regards,
Flint

 

https://forum.battlebay.net/threads/the-ultimate-infamy-revamp.13811/
Most of the complainers are just people who decide that it’s not their fault but matchmaking sucks.

 

I often get sunk, because of my own fault. But having bigger weapons and bigger shields gives definate advantage!

 

Agreed. But skill always matters more than items imo and infamy is better measure of skill than gear score. And i didn’t mean you, but the many other complainers.

 

I agree that a team who has more fire power and hit points will have an advantage and it often seems like one team has an overwhelming advantage in battle, but the evidence supporting your argument is missing some relevant info, it doesn’t take crew training into consideration

If player a) has isak trained to lvl25 and an epic lvl31 grenade with 4 rare critical % perks that players grenade will hit for 1215 damage with 66% crit chance @ only 974 gear score

If player b) has isak trained to lvl20 and an epic lvl40 grenade with 4 epic critical % perks thier grenade does only 963 damage with 68% crit chance @ 1364 gear score

Just one item at a lower gear score but performing much better then the other

 

If matchmaking was designed around gear score, infamy becomes obsolete.

Think for a moment what that implies: progression by ships/items only. Skill is now removed from all player ratings. The way BB is designed is to make it even easier to manipulate matche because now you can use lower MK boats, weaker items, and get appropriate matches. Everything about using gear score is terrible.

I say this after briefly complaining in a match, after my team was thorougly wiped out by an obviously stronger opponent, I noticed the average gear score of the opponents was 1000 higher per ship than ours. Unfair? No... it just means they will go to higher infamy than my team, where they belong.

Pure infamy matchmaking is what I'd rather see... not manipulated by anything else except boat types. There are OP boat configurations that matchmaking should avoid

And two changes:
a) All boats should level up at once. It removes the ability for players to game MK-based matchmaking as is commonly done today.
b) Infamy shouldn't change per match. That is is my biggest pet peeve with this game... and the result is wildly inaccurate infamy-based matchmaking. I can swing my infamy by hundreds of points in a day, so for Matchmaker(tm) to pretend that a summation of 5 vs 5 is going to be accurate is laughable... instant-infamy based matchmaking can easily be thousands of points off, resulting in completely lop-sided matches. I proposed a simple-moving-average... but I'd buy into an infamy system that never goes down... everyone is always matched at their career peak

 

Doh, again gear score means nothing.. just a fancy prop for no real update

Its bogus and to easily manupliated..

Can change my gear score from 1000 to 8000+

 

This guy again

I wonder if he has ignored me already?

 

It seems like for the majority of people on this forum. The game is just so fine and there should not be any further change whatsoever? Is that what on your mvps', well known members' mind?

 

I did not take offence, so don't worry

 

Matchmaking should not only be based on Gear Score, but toegther with the level of your ship and Infamy.

No I have seen battle with a 4000 - 5000 difference in Gear Score, which sounds quite a lot to me, that is 1/5 of the total Gear Score of one team. So, skill is important, but with 1/5 more fire power, you can get a long way.

Otherwise, what is the use of Gear Score all together? If it has no purpose, then why make it?

I wonder what the Devs say the meaning of Gear Score is, if it is not brought into the equation.

 

You are right, that is why I said 'There are exceptions of course'.

 

Yep, u hit the nail right on the head. If you dont agree with them they get super nasty.. and most think they and the game are perfect

Hence ignore feature... then they cant talk to themselves

 

I have been called all sorts of things, especially in the in-game forums, the nicest one was stupid, but als a mf and a lot worse than that. Only because I said something about Infamy. Then my mum was a woman of ill-repute etc. Some think they can just about everything.

 

, sry .. people just suck sometimes

 

Gear score + skill = infamy. So a player with a bit worse gear at 2000 infamy should compete at same level as a player with better gear score at 2000 infamy because of a higher skill level.
Team w/ higher gear score will not always win (I'd guess it is around 50% win rate), I urge you to do more research for my own curiosity as well

Maybe look into past matches and find what % of them the lower infamy total AND higher gear score team wins, and if they end up winning significantly over 50% of games then you might have a case?

 

Lol I have seen gearscores on mk6s that are 4k above mine in matches.

 

One battle ain’t gonna sway my opinion xD try analyzing 100 fights or something