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This is why Sniper is Broken

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by ViscountSniffit, 4 May 2018.

  1. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    I don't make videos I can share my replays and you can count how many sniper shots caught me if you promise to count the other weapons shots as well ;) just don't be disapointed after realize there are not as many sniper users on my battles as the Nerf sniper religion claims to exist :)
     
  2. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    (Reg+burn)× crit. The second one would be too OP
     
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  3. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    Actually this one would be stronger
    (200 + 40) X 2,5 = 600
    200 x 2,5 + 40 = 540
    If it works this way, you can have a decent bonus on a fire bomb + sniper combo even using only crit chance perks
     
  4. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Oh, I though you were asking with stacks xD.
     
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  5. Rainbow Warrior

    Rainbow Warrior Well-Known Member

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    That'd be soooooo OP
     
  6. TheAntiSnipe

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    Ikr
     
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  7. A55A51N

    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    Replay is perfectly fine.
    I don’t want to count shots, i want to see how you avoid sniper shots mainly with this wave cover thing.
     
  8. TheAntiSnipe

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    On the enemy side, wave evasion looks like they don't *have* the shot ready at all. So they don't shoot at all.
     
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  9. Rainbow Warrior

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    I don't use waves as cover, maybe you are confusing me with another player who thinks sniper is balanced, what I try to do is to dance as unpredictable as possible :)
    I don't remeber if there were snipers users o my last battles, but I'll log in and copy them here ;)
    I was going to watch them, but I want to play lol so I'll just post them
    https://replay.battlebay.net/LKJWZRWG#CJBQKCBR
    https://replay.battlebay.net/TVPBSPZJ#CJBQKCBR
    https://replay.battlebay.net/VYPDMJMB#CJBQKCBR
    https://replay.battlebay.net/NVFRKNTT#CJBQKCBR
     
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  10. A55A51N

    A55A51N Well-Known Member

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    I don’t see that as a valid argument for the nerf. Sure, it’s used, but so are turbo and big shield.
     
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  11. Fluid Bait

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    Over-used does not mean OP.
     
  12. A55A51N

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    Absolutely
     
  13. Hokuse

    Hokuse Well-Known Member

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    Definitely but i am sure if devs balance sniper it still be one of the most popular weapons in the game. It is OP right now.
     
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  14. envylife

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    All my heaviest canons are T5 Rare, and I don't use Sniper. My training tree misses a half dozen talents that would add to Sniper's effectiveness, which may have a lot to do with it. Players use it because of its reach and I'm constantly hit by ghost sniper shots... can usually duck away but not after losing 1.5-2k damage, which more than nullifies my entire small shield. But that doesn't happen every match.

    From a training tree perspective you are forced to choose between the two main 1-slot weapons BC and Sniper (Std Canon being a bit too light for most people's tastes)... and this is why you see multi-Sniper or multi-BC ships. No way to run both effectively, not to mention conflicts with Ex Canon. It's a choose-your-one-canon type of game... and most people opt for Sniper because it's the safest. Not entirely sure that makes it OP, but from my training tree perspective, it's less effective than Standard Canon. From another's, it's highly effective.
     
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  15. ViscountSniffit

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    Because it’s not just about the damage it deals, it’s also about the damage it doesn’t need to deal because it’s so feared.

    I spend most of my games having to hide behind walls, and Nitro from cover to cover, because all the open areas are controlled by Snipers. The smallest mistake: lingering in one place too long, peering a little too far around a corner... and I’m potentially going to get hit with thousands of hp worth of damage.

    Sometimes I’ll slip up and be heavily punished for the mistake, with multiple sniper shots and crits (that’s the damage you see). But even in the games where they don’t do any damage, Snipers are still dictating my every move.

    Keeping me out of areas, that I know (from bitter experience) are too open. Forcing me to hide behind walls, and wait for Shooters to damage each other before I can even think about joining the game.

    Even if they don’t damage me ‘this time’, they’re still exercising huge area control all the time. That’s what makes them so OP compared to weapons like EC.

    Against EC it’s like: “go right up next to that ship, and you’re gonna take huge damage”. But that’s actually really easy to ‘not’ do.

    Sniper is like: “go anywhere on this map that isn’t cowering behind a wall (being useless), and you’re gonna take huge damage” that’s untenable.
     
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  16. Djradnad

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    When the 3x rewards started it felt like my crit rate has been reduced even though it doesn’t say so. Anyone else notice this? My std. cannon however had been criting more often
     
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    You know what? Now that I think about it, that's kind of true.
     
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  18. Djradnad

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    My guildmate has a theory that it’s cause I use 2 snipers, like my crit rate is reduced when using multiple... anyways it’s all conspiracy lol
     
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  19. SeaNavy

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    I use one sniper and one standard
     
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  20. Rainbow Warrior

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    Maybe tesla shield could help to make your gameplay more enjoyable
     

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