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Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by HARPO!, 22 Apr 2018.

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  1. HARPO!

    HARPO! Well-Known Member

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    What was the point of this post? You were going back in forth with games you liked and franchises that failed. Do you agree with anything I have said?
     
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    No it is not. And if it is it doesn’t work. Cause it’s never a fair game. Who cares if both teams gets a mk6 a mk6 shooter I would take anyway over a mk6 fixer because they die faster anyway and I want someone to deal a crap ton of damage.

    #NeverBalanced
     
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    Thanks for he comment and the insight about mk match making. Never knew that.

    Still, it’s very broken, and this game has lost its entire point of skill factor.
     
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    Sadly it’s not.
     
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    It is. In a pool of all those players that is the most balanced in terms of ships it can possibly be. Of course there’ll be sometimes one team win +/- 1 ship mk point, but that’s to make matchmaking not need to take longer.

    It used to be that you could have a team of all mk6 vs a team of all mk5, which seemed lopsided, but it was actually balanced because the mk5 players were better/more geared, but people complained anyway, thus the patch was made.
     
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    I never seen skins in game
     
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    But wouldn’t you like to?
     
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    Nm season ranking. I was 739th last season with almost 4400 infamy, last time i was that high i was in the top 400.
     
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    So basically if you lose a match -> mm sucks
    If you win a match -> you’re skilled, but mm still sucks.
    The matchmaking can’t ask every player: ”Good morning dear player what kind of a match would you want now?”
    Sadly that was a pretty fair match.
     
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    Using gear score is one way to remove skill factor from matchmaking.... so that's out. How do you propose to do proper matchmaking based on skill?
     
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    @Ian’s post is absolutely spot on, and highlights what happens when you start introducing factors such as ship level (or gear level as some people are calling for) into matchmaking algorithm. This is the biggest cause of some ships being low in infamy compared to where we expect them. There are several posts by different players (myself included) which say the same thing. Before anyone makes another ‘matchmaking is broken’ or ‘why are these high level ships at low infamy levels’ type thread, I would urge you to read one of them and see if you change your mind about the reasons behind the issue, and how to solve them.

    One of the assertions made by the OP was that people spending on In Game Purchases was killing skill and therefore the game. Devs have quoted that F2P players watching ads only typically makes up 15% of a games (any game) income. So it is actually the case that players spending actual money in-game are the players that are paying the bills and keeping money available for any development. Rather than blaming them for the problems of the game, we should actually be happy that they continue to spend, because when they stop that’s when the game will be in trouble. #HUGAWHALE
     
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    I watch the ads because that’s the only thing a f2p player like me can do. And how does that not make me a f2p? I’m not spending any money for VIP service so I’m not paying to win. I’m only doing something to try to keep up with the P2W.

    Plus, yes P2W’s do continue to mess up the game. I’m not gonna #HUGAWHALE because in their motive to make money they also made the entire game broken. People can get any good weapon they want now and at a faster rate. Then they can buy pearls and everything.

    So that’s why we need to get rid of those things because it’s taking the skill out of this game. It’s also the reason why so many Nightmare players have left this game or who are about to. I’ll name names if you want me too. But it’s practically everyone in my friends list.

    The reason why I brought up Fortnite was because it is the best game in the world right now right with Overwatch. Why? Cause you can’t buy gear that’s gonna improve your gameplay. It’s all skill.

    You can buy sick skins, gliders, backpacksall that crap and Epic Games still makes a lot of money from that because people would actually want that.

    Maybe we can introduce a new system, battle bucks. You earn them in battling every once in a while, and once you get a certain amount you can buy a skin for your gun, boat, or anything that I mentioned in the thread starter paragraph. Or anything that you can think of, seriously brainstorm for once!!!

    And then if you want more battle bucks you can pay real money for more.
     
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    God people, does anyone read my posts that I put on the forum? Look up Matchmaking and Infamy Tankers. That’s where you’ll find the best case for matchmaking fix.


    And yes gear score will help with matchmaking cause it’ll put you up against people with the same power of items. How can it not???
     
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    I think you’ve misunderstood me. Nowhere in my post have I made any assumption on whether you spend money on the game or not.
     
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    What happened when rivalry matchmaking was changed from infamy to completed quests? People started complaining!
    And i think that people don’t believe you, because you just say ”it will work” and keep saying the same things, but the other people who explain what they say. I haven’t read a single one so far.
     
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    Battle Bay has always been built on an infamy system that is a mixture of skill plus gear. It has always been this way, and it has always been possible from day 1 for players to buy crates, pearls etc to get better gear faster. It can’t be ‘taking’ the skill out of the game because it isn’t a change for this game. So either the game was broke from day one because of this from day one, or it isn’t broken.

    What you are suggesting is completely ripping up the money making mechanics for Battle Bay which is built around letting player buy to upgrade their gear faster. I think it would be suicide for any game to make such a change from its initial cash generation design. All of the players who had spent under the current system would be completely disenfranchised by a change to a Fortnite money making mechanism, and you would get far greater numbers leaving than you claim will leave if they don’t make the change. Perhaps Fortnite’s method may have been a better choice at the beginning (perhaps not) but you can’t change now.
     
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    LOL:D
     
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    Yes I have read your post on Matchmaking and Infamy Tankers. Respectfully I don’t agree that it’s the best option at the moment. I think it would drive out the weakest players, and then the next weakest players, and so on and so forth. You may disagree with my conclusion, and that is fine, but I have taken the time to read and consider your views.

    I admire your enthusiasm and the passion that you put into your posts, but I think that your ideas would get a better reception if you added a touch of humility too. Directly stating that your own point of view is best is immediately degrading to anyone else with a different view. I don’t think that is your intention, but that’s what it comes across as.
     
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    I know that. I actually read. I brought up the ads part because some one else menationed that. I replied to you because I wanted to tell you that the P2W players are definitely making this game unfair.

    Weed out the weak then. This is a game for skill. Up your skill level. This game is all about skill. #P0rthosPhilosophy
    I don’t like all these noobs messing up everyone else’s games by spending money to get op weapons and not know how to use them. If you have good stuff, you better know how to use it. And if you can’t, well then stop spending money and start spending some time watching vids and playing customs to get good. And maybe focus one boat.

    By the way, isn’t that the point of an argument? To make a stance and stand behind it as it is the right choice. Plus, I’m always open for correction, I’m just gonna deflect any that I don’t agree with.
     
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    What? That first paragraph made no sense. What do you mean changed from rivalry to quests?
    Well we gotta do something and saying this isn’t doing a thing! It’s better late than never.
     
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