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Upgrade to MK6 or wait

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by darryl, 13 Apr 2018.

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  1. darryl

    darryl New Member

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    So far things are not going well, down to 2050 infamy, I'm almost always top in damage, seems like there is less teamwork.
     
    darryl, 17 Apr 2018
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  2. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    Sorry man. You'll adjust and adapt and start to gain again. Just work on pushing your blue items as far as possible.
     
    Help I Cant Swim, 17 Apr 2018
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  3. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Haha, it's a near lock the MK6 upgrade will result in exactly what you are experiencing. I believe Matchmaker(tm) is purposefully balancing teams to ensure strong players are split along sides when it should be random. Game progression is counterintuitive.
     
    envylife, 17 Apr 2018
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  4. Help I Cant Swim

    Help I Cant Swim MVP

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    Yea it is definitely not good to include Ship Mk in matchmaking. The only reason that I rose by about 1k infamy from Mk5 to Mk6 is my items got waaayyyyyy better.
     
    Help I Cant Swim, 17 Apr 2018
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  5. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Yup... real progression! I cringe whenever someone on then forums mention that they want gear score to be included in matchmaking in the same way... so many things wrong with that.
     
    envylife, 17 Apr 2018
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  6. Da Carronade King

    Da Carronade King Well-Known Member

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    For many people adhusting is hard. Matchmaking kinda gets harder as instead of facing 4 mk6s and one mk5 before u face 5 mk6s. Getting used to other slots is also a problem. Like for a fixer, that second red item distracts a lot of new mk6s, they havent got into a routine with two red items while also healing.
     
    Da Carronade King, 17 Apr 2018
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  7. YerJokinArnYer

    YerJokinArnYer MVP

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    Sorry to hear you’ve had a losing streak. As you’ve read, many other players have had similar experiences (myself included) so take heart from the fact that it’s not your fault.

    The difficulty I found was that the mk6s I was being balanced against had better gear (as they’d been a mk6 longer) and so I felt out of my depth (as well as having to manage another button to press).

    However, happily things improved over time, and now I’ve far surpassed my old highest infamy level from my mk5 days.

    I’m sure things will improve for you too, and this will be just a blip on the road for you too.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 17 Apr 2018
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  8. Hazimi

    Hazimi Active Member

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    Just out of curiosity, how would the devs see this. I upgraded my ship to mk6 2-4 days ago but since then my infamy was droped to 2200ish. Would they see this as tanking infamy?.

    I have gain some of my droped infamy but its still far away to recover to my usual infamy range.
     
    Hazimi, 18 Apr 2018
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  9. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    Infamy tanking is a drop of 800 from your peak.
     
    envylife, 18 Apr 2018
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  10. YerJokinArnYer

    YerJokinArnYer MVP

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    When I upgraded to Mk6, I lost so much infamy I was hit by the anti tanking rules. It was very frustrating as I try my hardest in each and every game. I’ve never attempted to manage my infamy, and so it felt like a kick in the teeth.
    Thankfully there is a lot more awareness of the issue now, so players can prepare as much as possible for the jump.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 18 Apr 2018
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  11. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    I'm seeing lots of players not upgrading to mk6 even though they are level 42 43.
     
    Shadow Moon!, 18 Apr 2018
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  12. YerJokinArnYer

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    With hindsight, if I was looking for the ideal time to upgrade to Mk6, I’d pick:
    • About half way through a season (just when downwards infamy pressure drops and upward about to start)
    • When I’d just unlocked the T5 abilities for my favourite weapon (but before I started upgrading it from level 40 to 50)
    That would ensure that there’s enough scope for upward infamy pressures to counteract the downward pressure from upgrading ship level. I think that’s the key.

    In my opinion, the worst time would be
    • At the start of a new season
    • When you’ve just risen an upward wave in infamy after upgrading a weapon to Lvl50.
    My reasoning behind that, is that you have no scope for upward infamy pressure.

    Perhaps that’s overthinking things a little. Who knows? :)

    Hopefully the underlying issue will be resolved in next update.
     
    YerJokinArnYer, 18 Apr 2018
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  13. envylife

    envylife Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it. If anything is done it will just be more manipulation to matchmaking.
     
    envylife, 19 Apr 2018
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  14. TheFixer27

    TheFixer27 Well-Known Member

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    Do these apply to 1700- infamy as well?
     
    TheFixer27, 20 Apr 2018
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  15. CoolDownHSNA

    CoolDownHSNA Well-Known Member

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    I don't really know :(
     
    CoolDownHSNA, 20 Apr 2018
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  16. darryl

    darryl New Member

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    I'm slowly climbing back up, at 2350 now but still feel that there are some differences. Teamwork is terrible, I'm often the last one standing dealing 2x the damage of anyone else.

    Fixers seem to be disappearing, I'd say once every 5-6 matches I'll have one on my team compared to once every 2-3 matches at mk5. I Over the next few weeks I'll be training Bhurt, Mortimer, Brock and the turbo guy to T5 to so that I can get my BP mortar, firebomb, Big shield and sniper all to T5 as I have the dupes ready. I would imagine that those should make a huge difference.
     
    darryl, 25 Apr 2018
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  17. TheAntiSnipe

    TheAntiSnipe Moon's haunted

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    Keep at it, bud! You're a bandage shooter now? If you are a damage shooter, with a small shield, your role is now defence and offence combined. You gotta pay attention to flankers and changes in battle flow, stuff that a mk5 didn't have the resources to do.(I know mk5. Youre too busy mastering the five guns to take a look around for most of the time).

    If you are a bandage shooter, it's time to pay more attention to the survival part of playing shooter. Play like you would play an enforcer, just without tesla shield and a hell of a lot more guns.
     
    TheAntiSnipe, 25 Apr 2018
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