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Assassin vs Duelist speeder

Discussion in 'Strategy Discussion' started by Agile Vanguard, 13 Apr 2018.

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What type of speeder do you prefer?

  1. Assassin

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  2. Duelist

    47.6%
  1. Agile Vanguard

    Agile Vanguard Well-Known Member

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    Hey I was wondering What’s the difference between Assassin speeder vs duelist speeder and which one I am. (I run Blast cannon+Flare gun)
    Also, I would like to know what the various types of speeder classes are and their jobs. Thanks guys
     
  2. What's Up Player

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    @TheAntiSnipe you're specialist at this terminology (I'm curious myself to find out the answer) :)
     
  3. Shadow Moon!

    Shadow Moon! Well-Known Member

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    Assassin speeder lurks around then pounches on weak target with burst damage to finish him/her off and gets away scot free.
    A dualist speeder stays around dealing continuous damage over time.
    A supportive speeder(dead class) is one who assists whole team frosting, stunning enemies has mostly long range weapons marks enemies to be killed.
     
  4. TheAntiSnipe

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    An assassin is a hit-and-run class. If you tend to use complex moves like stunning to healblock a target, or using flare to reduce healing, and running away while setting up a trap for your opponent, that makes you an assassin class. Rule of thumb: All assassins run from continuous confrontation. They don't like being whittled down by a stronger opponent, rather they pounce on weak targets to clean up.

    Duellists live for the close fights. They enjoy being barely out of reach, in fights and standoffs they cannot win alone most of the time. They target mid-health targets, mostly, but can sometimes turn into distractions. They almost never steal kills, and as @Shadow Moon! said,

    TL;DR Assassins are stealthy, while duellists tend to taunt(but do so responsibly as well;))
     
  5. Help I Cant Swim

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    Your current setup favors a "duelist" approach, since your Flare Gun does not provide good burst damage. An "assassin" wants to do as much burst damage as possible and then flee. Sniper + Explosive Cannon. Double Blast. Double Torps. Carronade + Blast/Sniper/Explosive. Grenade + Blast/Explosive. Your setup is very good and you should only change if you want to and if you have other similarly leveled items.

    With your current setup, you are going to do better in longer games. You can dart in and finish off a kill if they are low, but you'll do better to get close enough to the enemy to land both shots, avoid fire and return to behind your team. You can bait the enemy to separate, protect your Fixer, scout, etc.
     
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  6. Neptune_Gaming

    Neptune_Gaming Well-Known Member

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    @TheAntiSnipe is a flare+blast too. But I think he is an assassin.
    Am I right??
    Like it mostly depends on your playstyle. With the info given,you should be able to make out which of the 2/3 category you fall into
     
  7. Rainbow Warrior

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    It's good to mix them up depending on which one the game favours :D
    Please, steal my kills :D we have other targets to worry about :p
     
  8. Help I Cant Swim

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    He can play the role of an assassin Speeder with Flare + Blast, but that is not the best setup for that role and he would be stronger playing as a "duelist". We are only talking about minor differences, so there are a lot of times when a Speeder has no clear-cut role. A duelist can still fly in for a cleanup kill. But a perfect "assassin" would be able to deal massive damage quickly and the get out. Frost + Swift Torp + Big Torp was the best "assassin" setup that has ever hit the bay. Double Blast is probably the best current setup, although a Grenade + Explosive Cannon could work well if you can effectively use the Grenade on a Speeder.
     
  9. Shadow Moon!

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    Frost torp also worked as a supportive. I always did that as I had weak torp uncommon t4 at that time. I would shoot torps in groups freeze enemies in fire lines sniped them etc staying with my team all the time.
    The supportive class is dead now as the effect of frost is very short lived. Its mostly assassin type now. With FB I almost every match got 2+ stars in a win, for contributions now its not the case anymore.
     
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  10. SupremeCalamitas

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    Assassin speeder is EXACTLY as it sounds.
    Optimal targets: weak unfriend, isolated/not very well guarded fixer

    Duelist.. is duelist. It catches a lonely unfriend and either circles him and shoots, or just shoots, passes through,, turns round, shoots, repeat
     
  11. What's Up Player

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    I wonder what type of speeder am I :eek:.
    Seems like a weird hybrid kind of haha :cool:
     
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  12. Fluid Bait

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    What kind of speeder is a frost-torp + mine speeder?
     
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  13. Rainbow Warrior

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    :eek::eek::eek: how do you deal with yellows?
     
  14. Hokuse

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    I am a cold blooded assasin speeder using double carronades. I sneaking around behind enemies and try to take down their fixer. Also if i find an enemy alone, eliminate him. This is the assasin way :p
     
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  15. Fluid Bait

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  16. TheAntiSnipe

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    I switched over to duellist later.

    And flare blast is not really an assassin speeder. If you wanna go for assassin in earnest these days, bicarro, double blast, snipe ex are the few available options. Flare ex was viable, but nowadays the combo isn't good enough, unless you are a hit-and-run type.

    Rail snipe is kind-of an assassin, only it's a long range assassin build.
     
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  17. Shadow Moon!

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    2 more setups I am going to to work on are missiles sniper/blast.
    Swift Explosive I don't know what type this refers to but seems quite fun.
     
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  18. Help I Cant Swim

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    Swift + Blast is the only thing that I like on Speeder now. It is capable of dealing massive damage quickly while also having some other options.. long range, group damage, etc.
     
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  19. Shadow Moon!

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    Leveling up my swift rn hoping to rise with that setup atleast.
     
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  20. Help I Cant Swim

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    You can always come over to the dark side... Join the Enfo Army.
     
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