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Matchmaking from HELL

Discussion in 'Game Discussion' started by Flint, 8 Apr 2018.

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  1. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Honestly Devs,

    If it is not bad enough you place mk2 players with all mk4s and mk5s, now we get mk6s. WHAT THE HECK?

    Do you really think we as mk2 players should be placed there? If that was not bad enough we were in a team with mk6 players and man what where some of them bad, one had no close range weapons. Sheltering? What is that? Dropping mines in a close up fight?

    If you have a mk6 then you must know you need a mix of close and long range weapons, but sadly not and not even taking shelter.

    Look a the colour of everybodies weapons, mine do 200-250 damage.

    And of course we were did in 1.5 shots. Oh, this game is sooo nice.


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  2. Snapshot

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    ROFL. OK, that guy has played battle bay and, apparently, never tripped the seal clubbing rule. That means as I understand it that his infamy max is something like 1000 in a Mark 6 boat. In other words, he's been min/maxing the economic system since he started.

    This is exactly why I say that Rovio's current seal clubbing rule doesn't actually stop any seal clubbing.
     
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  3. Flint

    Flint Well-Known Member

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    Quite right and this is what you get if you don't have to work your way up instead of everybody progressing to bigger ships. You get still people who don't get this game.

    If there isn't going to be a minimum Infamy implemented for every mk2, then this game will be devoid of people within 1 to 2 years.

    Completely INSANE!
     
  4. YerJokinArnYer

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    I suspect that this match was unfair, but probably for different reasons that you do.

    The matchmaking system looks at infamy and ship level, and so I believe it put the mk2 on your team with the mk6’s to balance out the mk5s. However, when I look at the gear of the mk6’s, it isn’t really any better then the mk5s.

    I’ll bet if you added up the gear score of all members of each team that you’ll find the enemy them had higher.

    Regardless, we’ve been over this theme countless times before. We know that the current matchmaking formula is flawed, and we know Devs are working on a solution to improve it (my personal preference would be to remove ship level from the matchmaking formula). Continually creating new threads on the subject isn’t going to suddenly make the devs work any faster on the solution (I’ll bet it is already high priority). Over time the inequalities will balance out and you will achieve your natural infamy level.
     
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  5. WickEdDuck

    WickEdDuck New Member

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    You think that is bad, check out mine:

    Had not played for days, was getting frustrated by matchmaking which give me and my mk1 rubber duck boat mk5 for supper. Was bored and played one battle and it is my last

    Do you give a damn about us at all?

    Byyeeee

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  6. YerJokinArnYer

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    Actually you only lost 22 infamy for the match, so the system acknowledged that the enemy was stronger.
     
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  7. Flint

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    You are absolutely right, but this is getting so annoying. I like this game, or should I say liked? I hope they did more to change the game, but last update was mostly aesthetically. I wish they spend time and money instead in improving the matchmaking.
     
  8. WickEdDuck

    WickEdDuck New Member

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    Did you mean my match? How can anyone win if they kill you by sneezing at you that is how strong they are.
     
  9. Snapshot

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    I fully believe they are working on it. In the mean time, as I've said many times, if you like the game enough, things do get an awful lot better when you're M4 and 1500 infamy. Heck, you can just log in periodically and collect the daily rewards and train up your crew and even totally offline you'll get to M4 soon enough.
     
  10. YerJokinArnYer

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    I think that the last update represented a change in strategy by devs. Rather than fewer, bigger updates, I think they’re going to do smaller, more frequent updates.
     
  11. Snapshot

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    You now at first I thought they needed to tweak the match makign system. But then I understood why they went on an infamy basis. And honestly, infamy would work just fine for match making if people were encouraged to play at higher infamies rather than lower ones.

    Here's what I say on all these threads... Maybe there'd be fewer high levels in the noobie zones if the noobs didn't drop high level content?
     
  12. Flint

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    I do appreciate you replies always. I want to continue, but this was another setback and I really thought I had seen it all. But when I saw this I thought 'this is beyond insane'.

    I wonder do the people who do well with a mk1 or mk2 on purpose get to fight mk5s and mk6s, just to lose the game, so you are likely to spend (more) money? If not, then i don't know what causes it. But it is true that the whole problem of this game is that even the worst players will get a mk6 in due time. So, that is why all over the game you see people who cannot hit a single thing and really don't get how the game works.

    The person with one of these mk6s did not have any cannon on board other close range weapon, so that says enough, that is just someone who does not get how the game works. Which was clear when he threw mines and did not seek shelter. I don't think it was a seal clubbers, but really someone (I am not saying this to be condescending, not at all) who does not totally gets how to play the game.
     
  13. Flint

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    I told you this would happen.
     
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    Just learn to play
     
  15. WickEdDuck

    WickEdDuck New Member

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    Learn how to play? I got not even 90 battles done and am above 800 inf. I am doing something good, but battles are impossible.

    We
    mk5 - mk5 - mk4 - mk3 - mk1

    Them
    mk 5 - mk5 - mk4 - mk4 - mk4

    4 mk more on their side than on ours.
     
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  16. YerJokinArnYer

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    I dislike anyone telling anyone that they ‘need to learn to play’. Not everyone one can be ‘good’ at the game, and as long as they’re having fun playing, who are we to tell them they need to get better.

    It’s like they’re being told, if you don’t get good then you shall be ridiculed and really should be thinking of leaving the game.

    It’s just not cool to do so, in my opinion.
     
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  17. WickEdDuck

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    True, I did the same. I will see if I can edit my post for earlier today.
     
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    Just learn how to respect the noobs and the people who suffer this madness
     
  19. FiiNami

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    I dont get you people..why play that high with a low level ship? You're MK2, drop to around 500 infamy and it'll be fairer..
    I went up to 857 once and realise quickly its not a place for my mk2..theres no advantage to push infamy until you have mk4+ imo or maybe even wait till you have mk5..
    Just farm them gold if you need parts that the league offers, and buy parts from shop..while it is annoying to see mk5+ below 1k, they are not doing anything wrong and in some way are actually playing smart..
    Honestly I feel MM are fine as it is if you just avoid being needlessly over ambitious with infamy..
     
  20. Kitterini

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    To be fair this only happens when people bitch and moan about how unfair the game is treating them :) Its the same for everybody, and you have two options. Either you go moan about unfairness on the forums, or you accept the challenge and get better.

    So many matchmaking threads from people who fail to understand what players infamy number represent. The mk6 player with 1k infamy is a horrible player, not just bad, horrible. Meanwhile a 844 infamy mk1 player should be proud, the seas might be rough now, but stick with it and theres potential for greatness there!

    The mk and gear discrepancy has grown absurd at low levels sure, but fixing that is difficult. The mk6 player with 1k infamy would have a horrible experience if he was consistantly matched against equal power ships, he is flat out not a good enough player for that. Likewise for the 844 mk1, if you only match him against other mk1 boats his infamy would skyrocket (and who do you match him against then?).

    I know that the following statement is unpopular in the bitch and moan swamp these forums has degenerated into, but the infamy based matchmaking system is working just fine. #shocker
     
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